Posts by freddo

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1975... the year that keeps on giving.

by silentbuddha in

so i recently moved back to my really really really small hometown in the south.

it was the place that my parents moved to from a major city up north in the early 1970's.

when we lived here times were very tough financially and i was always told that the reason we did not attend meetings was due to the fact that we had no car / no gas for the car / could not afford repairs for the years we were there.

freddo

You sound a touch jaded Fisherman. Chin up!

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So, is it the publicity, or act itself that "brings reproach on Jehovah's name"?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".

this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.

making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.

freddo

Yup.

Satan's seen the abuse happen and then the cover up so he's nudges his demon mates and says "See Jehovah's followers trying to hide it to cover their asses? I thought I was supposed to be the bad guy round here. We could take lessons from these guys in Brooklyn."

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A WTF Moment While In the WTS

by Searching in

has anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".

for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.

it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.

freddo

"Skin" said ...

"Here in NZ, the price of fuel was included among the first reasons (read out from a letter at the KH) for the home book study to finish. They then spent the next 6 + months reading more letters out at the KH telling us that the price of fuel had nothing to do with book study ending."

Funny that. Exactly the same statement and follow up denial happened here in the UK.

Maybe Satan put the words into the two brothers mouths (11,500 miles apart) who read the letter just to mess with our heads into thinking that the direction came from Brooklyn.

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

freddo

Thank you DS. Much appreciated.

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

freddo

It's not so much the "two witness rule" - they can play what games they like in lala land for all I care - it's the NOT REPORTING TO POLICE/SOCIAL SERVICES and TRYING TO STOP OTHERS GOING TO THE AUTHORITIES - TO PROTECT JEHOVAH'S NAME that makes my blood boil.

It is insidious. Even in the mid-2000's after Panorama/Dateline forced the bastards in Bethel to put in writing that congregation members could go to the authorities without sanction, the verbal "strong suggestions" were to avoid it like the plague and woe betide any elder who told them he was going anyway.

I remember with another elder phoning the UK branch about a case where we believed that the children were being very badly neglected and we wanted to go to the social services. The Toady little shit on the end of the phone line - who of course is anonymous - really didn't want elders to go even when we explained that the parents or relatives wouldn't go because they knew they might "lose" their kids into care.

We went anyway and didn't tell anyone else about it. Funnily enough the other brother is now an ex-elder too even though he seems to be a true believer.

I believe - but cannot prove - there is a reported case in Ireland only this year where elders were removed (soundness of mind was the charge can you believe?) because they went to the authorities and what they knew came from either elders "investigations" or judicial records.

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It Might Have Hit The Fan

by VW.org in

jw
friends

i haven't associated with the jws for at least 6 months.

they do not know that i am an apostate.

maybe till just now becaue i was browsing reddit and stumbled upon a story from a paper about $4000 a day fine imposed upon watchtower.

freddo

If you don't want to "blow up" then just say that a workmate/neighbour emailed it to you asking about it and you just emailed it on "to an elder" as you wanted the elders opinion please as it seems very troubling to you.

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