my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Can a flat Earther please explain the difference between the night skies in (say) the U.K. and New Zealand? (Northern and Southern hemispheres)
The view is different in each country because the Earth beneath you is pointing in a different direction.
If the Earth is flat, the view should be the same.
now available:.
2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.
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Colombia + 1.6% yet loses 213 congregations. Strange.
Russia seems to have EXACTLY the same as last year on all stats. ???
confidential items are of most interest of course, just curious what they're talking about there in general and what are the newest things everyone is being warned about, etc.
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curiousconfused said "Parts of this years Elders school were pretty interesting actually."
Do I detect the whiff of the original context "curate's egg" CC?
it is christmas morning ....the weather outside looks cold grey and dismal (typical britain in winter ) the house is quiet as my wife gets on with something.
.... the street is silent, as dead as the grave.
the tv is full of the purile nonsense that fills airtime this time of year .
You have a pm Blues ...
i am 12 years old and im confused because my mam is leaving the truth after 12 years and i want to celebrate xmas but she still doesnt believe that should do it coz even though shes realised society has lied about things she still believes in god.
im unsure whether i believe in god or not but i havent really looked into it much ..
Your mum will be up and down a bit - or a lot - depending how stable and balanced she is. You are now starting to be able to make some of your own choices. Have you got a good network of "sensible" friends at school who won't do dumb things? Any sensible adult relatives?
All youngsters (and most adults) do some dumb things - the trick is to avoid the really dumb things!
Welcome.
as information floods the airwaves and available at one's finger tips in privacy.
thanks to incognito browsers one can do a search and keep it from family members with ease.
pretty soon one should be able to go to any kingdom hall and see very few youths only long time older ones.
Yup. The oldies are dying off. In my hall we lost 3 over 70's last service year and 1 already in this service year. There's another I don't think will last more than a few months too.
In that time we've had one younger guy move in.
No-one has become a new publisher or got baptised in the last three years.
In fact I can think of two unbaptised publishers announced as "no longer" and one who has purposely faded.
All going slowly South in our hall.
was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.
Cumulative. 1995 generation change was a biggie but in my mind of course even (under the old rules) then this system might go on to 2000 or even 2014.
Stupidity upon stupidity was added to doctrine or "guidelines" and I resigned as an elder. Jborg sealed the deal for me with its electric church and pappy videos and cartoons. After a year or two I was pretty stagnant and in for family.
Overlapping Splane-generations was the final straw.
Now I am part way through a fade.
so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
now what? wrote: (bold added by me)
"The 1960's were very turbulent times. It sure looked like bible prophecy was being fulfilled. If the end was to come surely it would have by that time. And when it didn't happen in 1975 the conventional wisdom for most was ,so what if we have to wait a few more years we have the absolute promise that the 1914 generation would not pass away. Goes to show you can make the bible say whatever you want"
That, in a nutshell is EXACTLY why so many of us carried on (or are now hanging on). Brilliantly put ...
so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
I think you can hold both views and there is merit in both.
This chap - and many like him - came in as a young man of about 30 with young kids. He'd witnessed - like my parents - WW2/Cuban missile crisis/JFK shot/Nuclear arms race/civil unrest/Vietnam etc.
Some old gentlemanly geezer calls by and shows him its all prophesied (*King of the North = USSR/South = USA/UK - The Generation - 1975 etc.) and he can have a wonderful future for his kids.
No internet. Not much in the public libraries on JW's. Like so many others he fell for it hook line and sinker. But note his brother did too and yet he is now virtually inactive.
i am located in kentucky.
i have faded out of the watchtower and i am just learning the truth about the truth.
i am trying to find new friends to talk to.
Nope - UK here!
Welcome anyway and talk away ... we can be your on line friends BiggerRed!
Tell us a bit about your situation.
