Posts by freddo

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Memorial Weekend Questions

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i just don’t remember when it was the last time the memorial falls on saturday.

anyway, do they meet for field service tomorrow(saturday)?

do they have their meetings on sunday?

freddo

ShirleyW

No. The rule is you don't have the meeting (it is cancelled, tho' very rarely zealot elders might still rearrange it) if it falls on memorial day.

A hall shared by 4 congs in my large town is organising its memorials like this.

Cong 1 - using KH at 7.30 pm

Cong 2 - using KH at 9.00 pm

Congs 3/4 - renting a community hall at the same times as above.

They "rotate" as to who gets the main hall and who gets to rent.

Now one of those congs normally has its weekend meeting on a Saturday and is cancelling it completely. The other three who meet on a Sunday will meet at the KH at the normal times.

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July 2018 WT points

by The Fall Guy in

page 16, par.

18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

freddo

The GB are bloated, power hungry, legalistic pharisees loving their cherry-picked, twisted, self serving scriptures in visible scripture-containing cases on TV. Whitewashed graves.

NO new organisation arrangements come from a desire to be faithful or discreet.

All they come up with are the old faithful "do more in Kingdom serve-us" plus a ramp up of "sell your hall and give us the money - and then some more" and "wear the right things and dress the right way."

All else is reacting to outside pressures from a lower income and rising costs from child abuse enquiries and apostates exposing their wicked policies which impact upon their $$$$$ and personal power.

Speaking for God and denying responsibility when they get it wrong. 4 changes to the "generation" teaching from 1995 tells anyone about their relationship with a higher power.

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Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?

by Fay Dehr in

feeling pressure to attend the memorial?.

as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.

if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.

freddo

Excellent find and comments! Thank you.

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Loving a JW

by stevilla in

here’s a little back story.

i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.

we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.

freddo

"stevilla, you are an exceptionally wise and understanding guy. "

/\ This.

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Loving a JW

by stevilla in

here’s a little back story.

i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.

we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.

freddo

Okay ...

Don't pressure her. Stay on here and learn how to "leave jw's" try jwfacts website and you will see the option to "fade". To do this successfully takes years.

This is the only chance to get away from jw's with any hope of her having contact with her family. And this depends upon their following of the rules - and sadly if one decides to disobey the rules then the others may well obey them fully. A lottery indeed.

However if you do normal things that young couples do (and are caught or your g/f has a guilty conscience and confesses) - as in have a sexual relationship when not married - including sexual expressions of affection such as handjobs etc. then she will be disfellowshipped.

If you meet up and do not have a sexual relationship - such as going on vacation together unchaperoned even with separate rooms then the elders (if they find out) will convene a judicial committee and likely disfellowship her for "brazen" conduct.

If you marry without having been caught for any of the above she will be "marked" as bad association and "not quite shunned" at least until you marry and then a bit afterwards.

So if after reading the above you are in for the long haul - you have a chance.

Take it slow - try to meet up clandestinely and get to know one another properly - the next stage would be to make plans. Consult here often.

Have you got the patience for this? Is it really worth the effort and investment? Only you can decide.

It is a minefield!

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Loving a JW

by stevilla in

here’s a little back story.

i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.

we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.

freddo

And thank you to "Punk - Flying Mallet - ofnice" for your input!

Sadly, much of what Punky says is true.

Now stevilla ...

A few questions so we can help a little more and not shoot from the hip.

How old are you both. Is she baptised. What is her family background?

Thank you and welcome!

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W5 Investigation

by Christian Gutierrez in

jw
friends

hey guys!

i just want you guys to know that today is a really great day.

there are so many jehovah's witnesses that saw this documentary and were disgusted by watchtowers policy.

freddo

I'm in the UK and I viewed it on youtube. (I'm PIMO) Also another largely PIMO friend in my cong viewed it.

It was excellent. Well done!

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If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

by nowwhat? in

i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

freddo

I like to think small but significant.

Any decrease worldwide would be significant. But I guess if that happens the numbers will be spun further. They already use Peak publishers and have dropped "average publishers". I believe they have done this only because the "average publishers" looks worse - possibly already in decline?

When the "Peak publishers" declines then that statistic may well disappear.

So either a published decline = genuine decline.

No figures published = genuine decline

Spun figures = likely genuine decline "recounted" to make a tiny increase.

Watch out for "love of the greater number cooling off" being trumpeted as a "good thing".

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Transferring Congregations

by optimisticskeptic in

what is included in the publisher cards and other information when you transfer from one congregation to another?

i was privately reproved and may be moving to a congregation where there are brothers i rather not know why i was privately reproved.

is the fact i was privately reproved visible but not the reason why?

freddo

How long ago was the P.R?

The Service Committee will decide what to write and may well consult the judicial committee or the whole body for input - certainly your group overseer.

If you have all "privileges" back and you move a good year afterwards you might get away with no mention if you have been a "good boy/girl".

I wouldn't discount a "not so discreet" phone call from CoBE to CoBE as well, mind.

3 years is "normal".

If you are "irritating" the elders - simply by sparodic meeting attendance or not complying with their demands then anything up to 5 years will earn you a dishonourable mention in any letter!

And no, you cannot demand a copy or sight of it and the receiving body - who will have it read to all of them - will be instructed to discard it once done.

Nice eh?

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2 Kingdom Halls burned in Washington

by Lynnie in

on the local news last night it was reported that two kingdom halls in olympia wa were set fire to.

i wonder who has a grudge with those congregations?

unfortunately we know the jw"s eat this crap up and enjoy the "persecution.

freddo

April Broadcast

Gary Breaux: (takes out onion to induce tears)

"Blah blah ... persecution ... blah blah ... time of the end ... need money to restore these wonderful places of worship ... send your donations.

---------------------------------

When the dust settles - CO in Kingdom halls area to bodies of elders for all congregations sharing the burned kingdom halls.

"And so brothers you'll need to stay in Outer Fumbuck for your meetings from now on as we aren't rebuilding the kingdom halls and are selling the land to developers."

...

Am I just a little too cynical nowadays?