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  Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  most jws don't see this as a problem.

  they reason that.

  just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.

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  freddo

  Carla.

  This has happened. A pioneer (what else? ) over a period of decades had a reputation for being over familiar with sisters and there were rumours of sexual activity and relationships with female bible studies - and at least one sister in the congregation. It took decades for him to get caught and dfd.

  Basically the sister confessed to her adultery with him. He said it was a fantasy on her part.

  She had a reproof and nothing happened to him. Years later a "bible study" came forward and he denied but got DF'd on the basis of there being more than one witness.

  Don't forget you can have "two witnesses" to separate but similar events to make it count in JW land. (Usually collusion is checked out) This was not always the case.

  This is how smokers are sometimes caught when they deny. And if on two separate occasions with separate victims a jw pedo is caught he can be done judicially even with no confession.
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  Even LEGO must obey jesus command to keep doing this

  by Kevin McFree in

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  https://youtu.be/vdtwrqvgcv0.

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  freddo

  (Just a minor continuity issue...smurf walks out, but is still there for the end)

  Well duh! He's magical.
  
  
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  freddo

  Unwritten rules and regulations always rankled but were trumped by the "generation" false prophecies; the A.R.C. sealed the deal.
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  AUSTRALIA: Religion start selling real estate assets to pay compensation to child abuse victims following Child Abuse Royal Commission

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paying for the sins of their church.

  australians are becoming less religious so congregations are getting smaller.

  that means there are fewer parishioners to contribute money.. ..."they're simply looking at the dollars they can reap from the sale of this wonderful old building and i simply don't feel that i should be spending my weekends keeping the view clear," mr thomas said.. ...the royal commission into child sexual abuse exposed widespread paedophilia within religion and concluded that its leaders were at times weak, ineffectual, and even complicit.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-30/paying-for-the-sins-of-their-church/9586602.

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  freddo

  Err ... no Morpheus.

  The OP posted "Religion" - not "jw's" on a forum where both jw's and ex-jw's are welcome. No fake news there.
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  Memorial

  by whatisthis12 in

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  so i’ve been dating my boyfriend for over a year.

  he left the jehovah witness community and we have been living together for one year.

  he hasn’t kept in contact with his family because he was disfellowshipped and hasn’t gone to any meetings.

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  freddo

  Family unlikely to meet him for dinner, he's df'd carla,
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  AUSTRALIA: Religion start selling real estate assets to pay compensation to child abuse victims following Child Abuse Royal Commission

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paying for the sins of their church.

  australians are becoming less religious so congregations are getting smaller.

  that means there are fewer parishioners to contribute money.. ..."they're simply looking at the dollars they can reap from the sale of this wonderful old building and i simply don't feel that i should be spending my weekends keeping the view clear," mr thomas said.. ...the royal commission into child sexual abuse exposed widespread paedophilia within religion and concluded that its leaders were at times weak, ineffectual, and even complicit.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-30/paying-for-the-sins-of-their-church/9586602.

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  freddo

  Morpheus.

  The original post says nothing of the sort.

  The inference we can draw of course, is obvious.
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  Memorial Weekend Questions

  by Iamallcool in

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  i just don’t remember when it was the last time the memorial falls on saturday.

  anyway, do they meet for field service tomorrow(saturday)?

  do they have their meetings on sunday?

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  ShirleyW

  No. The rule is you don't have the meeting (it is cancelled, tho' very rarely zealot elders might still rearrange it) if it falls on memorial day.

  A hall shared by 4 congs in my large town is organising its memorials like this.

  Cong 1 - using KH at 7.30 pm

  Cong 2 - using KH at 9.00 pm

  Congs 3/4 - renting a community hall at the same times as above.

  They "rotate" as to who gets the main hall and who gets to rent.

  Now one of those congs normally has its weekend meeting on a Saturday and is cancelling it completely. The other three who meet on a Sunday will meet at the KH at the normal times.
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  July 2018 WT points

  by The Fall Guy in

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  page 16, par.

  18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

  if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

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  freddo

  The GB are bloated, power hungry, legalistic pharisees loving their cherry-picked, twisted, self serving scriptures in visible scripture-containing cases on TV. Whitewashed graves.

  NO new organisation arrangements come from a desire to be faithful or discreet.

  All they come up with are the old faithful "do more in Kingdom serve-us" plus a ramp up of "sell your hall and give us the money - and then some more" and "wear the right things and dress the right way."

  All else is reacting to outside pressures from a lower income and rising costs from child abuse enquiries and apostates exposing their wicked policies which impact upon their $$$$$ and personal power.

  Speaking for God and denying responsibility when they get it wrong. 4 changes to the "generation" teaching from 1995 tells anyone about their relationship with a higher power.
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  Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?

  by Fay Dehr in

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  feeling pressure to attend the memorial?.

  as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.

  if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.

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  freddo

  Excellent find and comments! Thank you.
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  Loving a JW

  by stevilla in

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  here’s a little back story.

  i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.

  we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.

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  freddo

  "stevilla, you are an exceptionally wise and understanding guy. "

  /\ This.