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  Org's Data Protection Document - Question

  by The Fall Guy in

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  are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?.

  i haven't been troubled by any of the local jw stasi about it.

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  freddo

  That is a very good question and I think it depends upon the keenness of the local BoE (especially the Secretary) in the UK. I know in my hall all the baptised publishers were supposed to get a form although one irregular but still nominally active brother I know was given a form by it being handed to his PIMI wife.

  I know he hasn't been chased up for it (as of when I last spoke to him last week in early June) and that he hasn't signed it.

  If you aren't at meetings and haven't reported for six months you will likely not be chased.
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  Musical Chairs in Bristol England = £1 million sterling!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the congregation shuffle rolls on in bristol england, and a cool £1million is to be made for watchtower britain.. bristol - hengrove has been disbanded as of may 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called clifton, with bristol-redland congregation of jw's.

  the hall is an old victorian building, bought and paid for by redland since the late 1940's, although since then, bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 kingdom halls, and then reduced to 5 kingdom halls and 10 congregations.

  redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.

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  freddo

  I recognise that hall - it's been a well known jw hall in Bristol since before I was born (early 1960's) - that photo is taken from a road bridge over the local commuter railway line and the hall has a basement which is down behind the hedge in that photo.

  It's a posh part of Bristol too - near the University and on the borders of Redland and even posher Clifton.

  A really good site for developing even if a new developer has to keep the exterior looking the same.

  The world famous Clifton Suspension bridge is just over a mile away.

  
  
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  Reassigned, ...to complete erasure from memory and near poverty.

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a complete scandal is the reassignment to nothing of the thousands (?

  ) of bethelites, over age cos etc, .

  out on the street atfter decades of unpaid service in very many cases.

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  freddo

  Congregation about 30 miles from me (that has a PIMI relative of mine in it) last year had a fifty five year old booted bethelite and his wife move in. Story goes he was in a Bethel for twenty five years and when it closed he got moved to London; then last year he got booted out of London to a rural England congregation.

  So a foreign national, with no pension, at age 55 has to find accommodation and work for him and his wife. The congregation has a "wide boy" who runs "self employed" (not on his books as employees with proper benefits) teams of cleaners and window washers and so our Booted Bethelite is washing windows, paying £600 a month for rental of a small flat and with no pension contributions. His wife is working as a part time NHS assistant and pioneering.

  They still put on a brave face and "love Jehovah" but word is he especially is disilllusioned (but quiet about it) as the delusion runs deep with his wife.

  They remind me of an old proud couple who have been conned out of their life savings but who are too proud to admit it or at least cannot bear to face up to it.
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  JW Convention Bingo

  by Tallon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  came across this on exjw reddit and i cracked up laughing.. for those who are still required to attend the convention for one reason or another here is something that could liven up the day - jw convention bingo.

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  it would be hilarious if someone were to jump up and shout bingo!

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  freddo

  Brilliant! I've heard of a version called "Bullshit Bingo" for conventions with words and phrases such as ...

  Faithful and discreet Slave

  Listen, Obey and Be Blessed

  New Light

  Adjustment in our understanding

  Apostate Lies

  Trouble is you'd have all of those within the first two hours!
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  Disfellowshiped- reinstated- damaged

  by Damaged in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.

  i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.

  i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.

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  freddo

  Good move Simon. And I'm glad that (for the time being at least) you have left him on the board because when he posts he can be replied to; so any lurkers or those that have not made their minds up yet can analyse what he writes and the responses.

  "Black Spirit" (BS) will waken up more searching, honest and thinking people to the hypocrisy, money hungry and double talking behaviour of jw leaders than he could ever realise.
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  You won't believe this ... Jehovah's rich blessing has befallen me !!!

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad died a couple years back (not how you thought this would start, i know).

  he was an elder, and a very emotionally abusive father, well before the point where he ever shunned me.

  he died pretty much penniless, and never would buy life insurance or anything.

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  Excellent news dubstepped! If you find a parking space or repair a leaky pipe later today you can be sure it was Jehovah that opened up the opportunity to you! If so put it in a podcast.
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  Disfellowshiped- reinstated- damaged

  by Damaged in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.

  i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.

  i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.

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  Damaged, Black Spirit doesn't even know who we are to be witnesses of. He ignores Acts 1 v 8 as does his Governing Body who he gives "obeisance" to.

  You will find much love and support here from genuine people. People who don't cover over child abuse and spout false predictions to retain control, luxury apartments, power and money and a very comfy lifestyle on the backs of others.

  Jesus had "nowhere to lay his head" and preached from fishing boats and hillsides - the GB can lay their heads in the nicest apartments in apartments in printing and video production factories throughout the globe and "preach" from comfy chairs in plush offices.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  BS quoted - "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive" - Hebrews 13:17.

  He forgets the context which is a few verses back at Hebrews 13:7 - 9.

  (Hebrews 13:7-9) . . .Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith.

  8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever.

  9 Do not be led astray by various and strange teachings, for it is better for the heart to be strengthened by undeserved kindness than by foods, which do not benefit those occupied with them.

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  Tommie Robinson

  by zeb in

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  2. friends

  unconfirmed reports this am (australian time) that tr has been transferred to a maximum security prison..

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  freddo

  A snippet from an Independent (UK newspaper) article ...

  A judge initially banned reporting on Robinson’s imprisonment but the order was lifted following a challenge by The Independent and local media.

  Robinson, who was jailed under his real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, had already been handed a suspended sentence for the same crime and was told he could have caused the trial to collapse.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  Whose "Witnesses" are we to be according to Acts 1 v 8?

  Jehovah's Witnesses or ...

  Jesus' Witnesses?