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  2018 Convention :The Cry for "Peace & Security"

  by jwdoctrine in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsk2k9y7qs&t=835s.

  the talk of the cry for "peace & security" from the sunday morning program.

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  freddo

  I remember that jws. (Bold added by me but italics are in the original text)

  *** tp chap. 7 p. 85 pars. 30-31 When Will the Foretold World Destruction Come? ***

  30 Yet one more event will come as an unmistakable signal that world destruction is imminent. Of this the apostle Paul wrote: “Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them . . . and they will by no means escape.”—1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3; Luke 21:34, 35.

  31 The world’s leaders know that a nuclear war means virtual extinction. Also, critical problems such as pollution, the population explosion, and domestic problems demand attention and money. So they want to relax the strained international relations. An evidence of this is the proclamation by the United Nations of 1986 as the ‘international year of peace and security.’ This, no doubt, is a step toward the fulfillment of Paul’s above-quoted words. Of course, political negotiations and treaties are not making any real changes in people to cause them to love one another. They are not putting a stop to crime, nor are they eliminating disease and death. Yet the prophecy shows that the time will come when the nations will declare that they have achieved a measure of “peace and security.” When that happens, then “sudden destruction” will come “instantly” upon those misleaders of mankind, along with all who put their trust in them.

  
  
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  WT gives up on making disciples! No joke!

  by nowwhat? in

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  yep, taps out, throws in the towel, waves the white flag!

  in today's watchtower it basically said don't expect any results due to widespread apathy and opposition.

  but you can still bear fruit just by going through the motions of being regular in field service.

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  freddo

  Yep - I had a discussion with another PIMO who went to this and he said that the WT conductor said the fruit of the work is scattering seeds not the actual fruit that grows.

  Most of the answers were self justification about how "this article makes me feel good even though I don't get much in the way of results."

  So a big pat on the back for sitting on your derriere watching the world go by and having the bus driver call out "Good Job!" and a kiddie "waves" on her way to school.

  And the only really commendable thing that happened was that some "worldly" gave them a bunch of flowers.

  5 hours a day, six days a week on a trolley in your eighties. 30 hours and no response;

  #HOPELESS WASTE OF A LIFE.
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  freddo

  Anyway - stop worrying about Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, he's getting three square meals a day, TV, exercise and enjoying the kudos from his fellow lags (and probably a good few of his guards) - he might even be writing another book.

  He'll be out before Xmas.
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  Things to do when im at the new 2018 convention

  by Akid48 in

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  well, its that time where i have to go to the boring convention.

  so, i wanted to know if anyone had any good ideas on how too pass the time (i cant just try and listen i fall will asleep and i cant let that happen).. (only got a few weeks before i have to go its going too kill me but i got too do it).

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  freddo

  To a degree Wake me up is causing divisions in opposition to Jehovah so she will have to be put adjacent to the hippopotamus.

  That's my angle on it anyway.
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  Tonight’s meeting

  by lastmanstanding in

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  this post is for the lurking dub.

  the pimc (physically in, mentally confused) lurker dub.

  the guy who reads the watchtower stuff and scratches his head, sure something is amiss but not sure of what’s really happening.. it may also be of some interest to those curious of the nuts and bolts of watchtower’s methods of scripture twisting.. in tonight’s “digging for spiritual gems: (8 min.

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  freddo

  Excellent synopsis LMS. I always found this lame explanation troublesome.

  And PIMC - we have a new and brilliant acronym. So accurate for many at the KH
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  freddo

  Is that all you got from my post Simon?
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  freddo

  I dunno Simon - I just don't see pro-Islam lies and propaganda in Abaddon's posts. I see a well put point of view that is pro-moderate and anti extremist.

  Cofty puts a well reasoned point of view too in that Islam is the religion presently used by most extremists to foment their evil.

  I believe that British money spent on schools (e.g.) in Pakistan (e.g.) is one of the best ways to spend foreign aid. And with the British background I believe we should spend on foreign aid especially in ex empire countries we have had strong links with. Also building relationships through common sports such as cricket is good too.

  I also believe that any religious extremist that kills or threatens to kill should be dealt with severely. Life imprisonment and death penalty included.

  Also that anyone (in general terms) who is in a western country illegally should be immediately returned to their country of origin. If they come back then they should be imprisoned for a year before being sent back. Come again and caught then (say) five years.
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  I couldn't take it anymore, although still in because of my wife, I did this...

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  i dressed up in a hoodie, double layer so that the cameras at the kingdom hall couldn't recognize me.

  i looked in the mirror up and down so i knew that the cameras, at least at the angle that i knew couldn't see my face.

  i took this disassociation letter, stuck it in the envelope, labeled it, "(congregation's name...boe" by hand and sealed it.

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  freddo

  What's the situation with your wife LTPF? Any change in her view?
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  New kingdom hall Washington State

  by Are you serious in

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  yesterday i drove passed a town a couple of hours from my home and saw this kh under construction.

  this is the first new design kh i've seen in washington state even though i would think by now another one or two have been built.

  maybe not with their financial situation being the way it is.

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  freddo

  What a ghastly looking building!

  It looks like a war-bunker.
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  When WWII ended, how difficult was it for the JW's that had been in prison to adjust?

  by Sobeit in

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  my husband seemed to have a hard time..

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  freddo

  Nice to have you posting Sobeit, make another post and tell us how you got our 50 years ago - it will be most encouraging.

  Now, assuming you are in the USA or the UK/AUS/NZ/CANADA then it would be very difficult because you were in a nation that "won" and that had the feeling it was fighting a "righteous" war. My father was in the forces in WW2 before he became a JW and he said he felt he was doing the right thing to defend the nation from and destroy the Nazis. One of my neighbours growing up fought the Japanese in Burma and his hatred was very deep for the enemy.

  If your husband was a JW jailed for being a conscientious objector then he would have felt that although he was doing the right thing but everybody else (neighbours, workmates, even siblings or cousins) would have looked down on him as unpatriotic or even a coward or traitor).

  Obviously it takes a certain courage to stand up and not go to war and face court, condemnation and prison. But in WW2 - especially in the UK, the nation (plus the empire) was alone against Hitler, facing bombing and U Boats for a year before Russia then America became involved. So other decent people would view you as a traitor.

  After the war you might be talking to those who lost or had maimed a brother/son/daughter/sister from enemy action who would take a very dim view of your "cushy" life and survival.

  Hope that makes sense, Sobeit.