My general understanding of the 1940's through early 1970's was that the Knorr/Franz combo was Franz came up with the stuff and Knorr ran the business to sell it.
Posts by freddo
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19Blood Transfusions
by new boy intake a wild guess who dreamt up the idea about no blood transfusions for jehovah’s witnesses in the first place?
charles russell, the founder of the church?
judge rushford, the alcoholic and second president?
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Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission
by stuckinarut2 inthis letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!
wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .
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freddo
I love this forum for the way a "leaked" document is dissected thoroughly (even if it seems to support my views) so that the truth may be obtained.
No fear here of what is said and who said it; just a desire to get things accurate.
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What JW habits do you still have?
by Exelder insince leaving the jw's after over 4 decades, i can see exactly what it is and hate everything it stands for.
however, there are still some jw habits and traits that i can't get rid of:.
1. i can't swear in general conversation (i'd have to be really angry).
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freddo
"I get annoyed if someone has not got a working door bell at their house... "
When I was "in" the borg I preferred a non working door bell every time.
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Trump's concubines -- so what? Jehovah loved Solomon and he had 10,000
by ElderEtta inwhat say you.
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freddo
All?
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German branch stats: the number of KHs has decreased by 1/8 during the past 7 years
by Corney inaccording to its own statistics, the jw organization in germany had 1075 kingdom halls in august 2011, 997 khs in november 2016, and 940 ones in august 2018. .
the average decrease was 1.25 khs per month in 2011-2016 and 2.7 khs per month during the past two years.. .
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16znuhftwpwq1nf_9jidc_srarst0errjssgcuxkbl8a/edit?usp=sharing .
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freddo
I've no idea where the chart comes from Morpheus, perhaps the OP can explain. All I noticed was that the publisher numbers are markedly different to the yearbook numbers but the Cong numbers are very close.
As for KH numbers there is nothing except the chart to go on unless you go to jborg "find a meeting" and count every hall on the map of Germany! Even I'm not anal enough to do that.
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German branch stats: the number of KHs has decreased by 1/8 during the past 7 years
by Corney inaccording to its own statistics, the jw organization in germany had 1075 kingdom halls in august 2011, 997 khs in november 2016, and 940 ones in august 2018. .
the average decrease was 1.25 khs per month in 2011-2016 and 2.7 khs per month during the past two years.. .
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16znuhftwpwq1nf_9jidc_srarst0errjssgcuxkbl8a/edit?usp=sharing .
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freddo
Now look at Congs ... not such a difference both show a marked drop.
Yearbook figure for end of service years ...
Year 2011 Congs 2228
Year 2016 Congs 2159
Year 2017 Congs 2118
The chart above says 2232 for "August 2011"
The chart above says 2149 for "Nov 2016"
The chart above says 2108 for "August 2018"
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German branch stats: the number of KHs has decreased by 1/8 during the past 7 years
by Corney inaccording to its own statistics, the jw organization in germany had 1075 kingdom halls in august 2011, 997 khs in november 2016, and 940 ones in august 2018. .
the average decrease was 1.25 khs per month in 2011-2016 and 2.7 khs per month during the past two years.. .
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16znuhftwpwq1nf_9jidc_srarst0errjssgcuxkbl8a/edit?usp=sharing .
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freddo
Well Morpheus - I think not. These figures don't tally with the yearbooks.
Yearbook 2012 gives the end of service year 2011 figure for publishers ...
Peak 165,387 Average 162,894
The above chart gives Aug 2011 (Probably the start of August as we have Aug 2018 figure up there and it is not the end of August yet.) as 167,107 so whatever it is, it is higher than both the yearbook figures.
Now check their Nov 2016 figure of 168,763 and look at the yearbook figures for 2016 and 2017 end of service year ...
2016 (Peak) 165,624
2017 (Peak) 165,470
So obviously they are counting publishers differently.
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Can you disassociate on your last judicial committee for apostasy?
by jwdoctrine inhi guys, i have been summoned to a judicial committee for apostasy.
i'm going to disassociate anyway but i don't want to miss the fun .i'm thinking of handing my letter of dissociation on the night of the committee.do you think this is a good idea?.
as i said i have already made my mind up.
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freddo
The announcement is still the same and they will tell "everyone" you were disfellowshipped for apostasy regardless of a last minute DA.
If you WANT to attend then have fun. Why not in the meantime start writing to everyone you know (EXCEPT the elders) telling them why you are disassociating - before the announcement.
If you really want to yank their chains then don't give them a letter of DA - just appeal in writing six days after they tell you you are DF'd and include a paragraph telling them you are consulting a lawyer to look into the possibility of suing personally any who serve on the committees especially the person who announces it. Great fun.
This will buy you a few more days/couple of weeks while they consult the branch and let you send yet another letter to all your contacts about how you are being hounded and conspired against by false witnesses and how they should contact jwfacts.
Personally, if I wanted to go out with a bang then I would ignore their request for a JC and just start telling "everyone else" in writing (put your name but don't sign the letter) you are leaving due to disgusting child abuse cover ups and false prophecies about the generation!
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Their Last Message of Damnation
by new boy inthe leaders of the witnesses are preparing their flock for the day when they will have to give that last message of damnation.
they will soon be announcing how their loving god jehovah will soon becoming to kill off the vast majority of mankind.
billions of men women and children,.
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freddo
I don`t believe they will ever do that because its not something they could walk away from or explain its failure to materialize ,however they will always be on the brink of delivering such a message........ in the near future.
This ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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Donated Jewelry -- where is it sold?
by anon123 innot really sure in what forum this topic belongs -- trying to find out where kh or other jw org sells the jewelry that is donated to it..
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freddo
Having slept on my above post - I apologise. The org maybe money-grabbers but I don't believe they are on a par with the Nazis at Auschwitz.
Sorry.