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  What Privileges do you get when you are baptized ?

  by LOLS in

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  my husband was baptized at the recent 2018 convention in south africa ....... he was very annoyed that his non-believing wife did not attend the baptism....... but i think he received pressure from his jw father & elders as to why his wife was not attending ....... anyway ..... it's really water off my back .

  i wanted to know what privileges you get as a baptized jw man , as i saw a message from one of the elders at his cong , congratulating him on his baptism and to earning more privileges ..... what are these privileges the elder is speaking about ,,,,, .

  i don't feel like asking my husband as it just lands up in a stupid fight ..... or a long winded explanation ..... thanks .

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  Well LOLS I'm glad you're strong-minded. You will need to be.
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  Changing Name from Jehovahs witnesses to governing body followers?

  by LovingLifeNow in

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  first off, they are not changing there name.

  but i was thinking this morning that it wouldnt be that far fetched to do so.

  i mean they could use the spin, " we have so much new light and the times are so close, that we need to be obedient to the fds," there have been many changes in the organization so we don't want to be associated with the old name, but again more then ever we need to be obedient" .

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  No. Even Hitler didn't change the name Nazi to Hitlerites.
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  What Privileges do you get when you are baptized ?

  by LOLS in

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  2. beliefs

  my husband was baptized at the recent 2018 convention in south africa ....... he was very annoyed that his non-believing wife did not attend the baptism....... but i think he received pressure from his jw father & elders as to why his wife was not attending ....... anyway ..... it's really water off my back .

  i wanted to know what privileges you get as a baptized jw man , as i saw a message from one of the elders at his cong , congratulating him on his baptism and to earning more privileges ..... what are these privileges the elder is speaking about ,,,,, .

  i don't feel like asking my husband as it just lands up in a stupid fight ..... or a long winded explanation ..... thanks .

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  freddo

  Oh dear ... tell us your story LOLS. Did he "marry you out of the truth" as in he was brought up in the cult but never got baptised and found you?

  He must be thick to become a true believing jw nowadays. (As opposed to one who is going through the motions to keep his family happy.) Please tell us he holds down a job and you don't have kids. PLEASE.

  SL and DB above explains what he will soon be able to do.

  He will first get used on running a microphone at the kingdom hall. If they are really short handed they might make him an assistant on those departments mentioned in his post above. He might get allowed on the trolley carts if he has "good ministry" after a couple of months.

  If "he has the circumstances" he can apply straight away to be an auxiliary pioneer (30 hours a month at certain times of the year, 50 hours at others) and after six months (usually after successfully auxiliary pioneering or having an outstanding ministry) he can apply to be a regular pioneer where he will be expected to do 70 hours of timewasting err... ministry per month for a year.

  After a year he can technically be made a Ministerial Servant if he "qualifies" (10 hours per month of ministry - being seen out knocking doors or cart witnessing, attending meetings regularly and answering up well) but unless they are really desperate it is more likely he will be given a lesser department to run like "sound" or "literature" or "hall" first. It usually takes at least three years of brown nosing and "exemplary" conduct to be a Ministerial Servant.
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  Watson. Here is one of my experiences

  by moley in

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  a little backstory.

  please comment, is the just childish imagination or something unexplainable.. when i was nine we lived in modbury, it’s a small town, in devon the southwest of britain.

  we lived in a very hold house, several hundred years old and down the way was 2 battle sites of the english civil war (one a minor battle won by the royalist and a larger battle won by the parliamentarians which ultimately lifted the siege of plymouth).

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  freddo

  What an excellent point Dunedain.
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  What immodest clothing have you got in trouble for wearing?

  by Addison0998 in

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  i personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.

  recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!

  a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.

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  (Not immodest - but AGAINST DA ROOLZ)
  

  I was working on a kingdom hall build. Not my own hall - so approved by the Service Committee and all that jazz - but had to drive about fifty miles there for the "privilege" while giving up a Saturday to do so with a paint brush in hand.

  In my work I sold photocopiers and occasionally got freebies from the manufacturer like holdalls and T-shirts with their logo on it. So being thrifty I wore an old T-shirt for doing jobs around the house that had a logo on it. I would also wear it when maintaining our own kingdom hall.

  So I turn up on site to "sign in" at this kingdom hall build and the brother on checkpoint charlie said "you can't wear that T-shirt, it's got a logo on it"

  I asked him what he proposed I do. He said turn it inside out or go home and change.

  As I was a serving elder at the time I felt I had a "little bit of clout" and replied "it's an old shirt for doing odd jobs and getting paint on; it's not going to offend anybody, brother."

  He said "Weeelllll, can't you turn it inside out then?" I said no and that "he was straining out the gnat."

  It was going to be a stand off when my team overseer (who also was a well known RBC "heavy" came up and said to the brother "If you let it pass for today brother I'm sure "Freddo" won't mind wearing something else next time - he has given up his day and driven fifty miles for your congregation hasn't he?")

  The other brother backed down.

  What a fuss over a logo! I mean we're talking about a small 6" name on the chest saying "Minolta Copiers"!
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  Do Jehovah`s Witnesses lie to receive Government benefits ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  jehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.

  the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.

  being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.

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  Round my way we had a couple who bumped out 5 kids in ten years. So she has her hands full and if he works a low wage job then their benefits would get reduced.

  So a jw elder, self employed builder would use him as a labourer and instead of paying him he would buy his food shopping each week.

  So the family got all their benefits and all their food shopping paid for.

  JW elder got cheap labour.

  Clever little scam.
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  Wimbledon Kingdom Hall

  by truthseeker in

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  i just heard that wimbledon kingdom hall is being or about to be sold.

  it is 60 years old and worth half a million pounds.. has anyone heard anything more about this?.

  truthseeker.

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  freddo

  Underground, overground, Wombl-ing free

  JBorg has tak-en my King-dom hall from me.

  We make good use of the things that we find

  Even though Watchtower is robbing us blind.
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Dubstepped said "Just say fuck off Doubter, and refuse to feed him. It worked with Bobby before him. Don't feed the pedo protectors. They don't deserve your time."

  That is excellent advice Dubstepped.

  
  
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Doubter - "Let me revisit my statement. They didn’t directly thank the guardian after re reading it, they instead said they were grateful it was brought to their attention."

  You apologise like your masters the WT did for 1975, Dubter ...

  WT - " *** w80 3/15 p. 17 par. 5 Choosing the Best Way of Life ***

  ... considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

  
  
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  Adding insult to injury when the WT kicks out a congregation from their hall

  by nowwhat? in

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  not only does the organization confiscate the hall the congregation owns.

  but then the former congregants are told to continue to pay for utilities and they are still responsible for upkeep and maintenance.

  so they still have to cut the grass etc.

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  freddo

  I can confirm the OP scenario happening across the pond here in the UK.

  A nearby old hall had two congs. The hall paid for and sat empty awaiting sale.

  One cong dissolved and the funds it had been saving for a replacement hall (£100K) taken by - err donated to - the London branch.

  The remaining congregation got sent to another hall and its savings funds (£125K) went to the London branch AND IT HAD TO MAINTAIN ITS OLD HALL until it was sold for over £350,000.

  So that's over a half a million pounds of hard saved money/property gone over a couple of years to the FAT CATS in London.