Posts by freddo

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1993 AWAKE on Child Abuse

by The_Doctor10 in

10/8/93 awake article about child abuse misconceptions, checkout the second misconception: children fantasize or lie about abuse.. this article notes how it's extremely unlikely that children lie in cases of abuse (95% in some estimates are truthful) and how even among the ones who lie it's usually when they make a claim (in truth) but then subsequently lie and say it didn't happen, when in actuality, it did.. given this knowledge, why the two witness rule?

95% odds that the child who claims abuse is telling the truth by the awakes own admission, that should be more than enough to change policies of the wts.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g19931008/about-child-abuse/#?insight%5bsearch_id%5d=8d161c40-c4d0-4ddb-aadf-bcf2b480d55b&insight%5bsearch_result_index%5d=0.

freddo

For balance I believe they tell the truth in the vast majority of cases.

However I can think of at least two cases I knew of where the child had been put up to the lies (one by by a jw mother trying to get a divorce on "scriptural" terms and another non jw divorce case where the mother tried to threaten this to get a better financial settlement.)

Before I get an onslaught I firmly believe that the vast majority of cases are true and that whatever they should always be put to the authorities (social services/police/medical professionals) for handling.

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Funny JW cartoon

by Funchback in

sorry if others have posted this video already.

i have been away a while...maybe i'm late to the party!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_pqu0bln74.

freddo

I wanted to laugh; brilliant work! - this cartoon is exactly how jw'ism is. Fortunately "Brother Kent" no longer goes in the ministry because he is (you choose) waiting for paradise by way of:

being confined to home as a "shut-in".

being in Jah-Jireh nursing home provided by brothers and sisters in England who ran ahead of the great organizational chariot.

"a resurrection".

Profoundly sad really - just as sad as a little boy being dragged around from door to door.

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Anthony Morris III: "...we cannot control everything that an individual might say..."

by cappytan in

i noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".

that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.

freddo

@Naoscillator - I agree 110%

In my experience in the UK when I was an elder legal (and service dept of course) never wanted elders to contact the authorities or warn parents. I know I did both on the quiet and I know one or two others in the circuit at least warned parents too.

"Don't bring reproach" was finally replaced with a grudging "you can't stop anyone going to the authorities" (After the BBC 2002 Panorama programme) - but the whole ethos was to cover up.

I saw ToMo3's "clever broadcast" and his "clever theocratic warfare" and sadly know it will work on most jw's. Sad, so very sad.

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Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

by Richard_I in

jw
friends

this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

link to video.

i'm writing a transcript right now.

freddo

Well done Candace Conti and all the other brave souls who have had the guts to take on the WTB&TS! You are putting hooks in their jaws and dragging them to where they do not wish to go...

Bravo!

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Geoffrey Jackson compares waiting for Armageddon to waiting for Brazil to score a goal against Argentina!

by GodZoo in

wtf!https://vid.me/8tuy

freddo

I wonder if the auxiliary counselor went up afterwards and told him that his illustration should be more accurate?

AC "Brother Jackson, may I have a word?"

GJ (Extending hand to be kissed) "Of course my brother! How much did you love my talk?"

AC (Ignoring all fingers and rings thereupon and turning to Ministry School book) "Under study 40 - Accuracy of Statement - note p225 para 3 - When you are consistently accurate in what you say, you will become to be known as a person who respects the truth. This reflects well on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group. More important, it honors "Jehovah the God of truth."

GJ "That's right!"

AC "Well there is no 50 meter or 25 meter mark on a soccer pitch ..."

GJ "Who is your Co-ordinator brother? Better yet who is your Circuit Overseer?"

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Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

by snare&racket in

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so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

" twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

freddo

Nice job. Keep doing this. If she doesn't wake up she will be more depressed and that while not nice for her it will have a dampening effect on those witnesses around her.

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Hitler admits the truth about the truth....

by _Morpheus in

submitted by the governing body for your approval!

credit freemindfade with on the script.... http://youtu.be/ldiwqqbcd5w.

freddo

Brilliant!

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On The Art Of Fading

by expatbrit in

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friends

in october of 2000, i faded away from the watchtower.

like most people, i have family and friends who are jw's (including my wife and parents).

fading is generally the best method for people in that situation.

freddo

Bump

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Trolley Stands Up, Door-to-Door Work Down?

by steve2 in

several threads have discussed the increased use of of the trolley work by witnesses in various countries (e.g, australia, new zealand, the states, canada and britain to name a few).

several posters have described trolley settings as largely ignored by passersby and/or the witnesses immersed in everything other than appearing ready and waiting to make contact with passersby.

what impact will this increased shift to trolley work have on the hallmark feature of jws, their door-to-door work?

freddo

"How are the trolley dollies chosen"

Metropolitan in cities - Regular Pioneers only but just beginning to include some "exemplary" publishers - you know - elders and their wives and adult kids that dress "professionally." Nepotism rules.

Local Cong - If you have a pulse and don't dress like a vagrant you're pretty much in in some congregations. In others they are more Pharisaical and try to copy or go beyond the metropolitan rules.

And the vast increase from all this standing around? A big fat zero. In our hall we have about 95 publishers and about 65 attend the meetings.

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Australian Football player Alex Rance

by Mattieu in

how can i describe alex rance?

if i was from the uk or europe, imagine your best football goal keeper.

if from the usa, imagine your best defence player in the nfl.

freddo

Phew! That was close.

Now ... how to help him see the TTATT.