birmingham uk regional convention which finished yesterday had attendances between about 8500 and 9500, and had 28 baptized.
0.3% approx - so if the circuit assemblies were the same what does that amount to? 0.9% in a year?
Less the deaths - say 0.9% for the UK
Those that leave or dfd? - lets be kind and say 0.5%
Are there more unbaptized publishers leaving than joining as well? Don't know.
I reckon that despite all the trolley hype (or because of it) there was a small decrease or no increase in the UK this year but I bet it's fudged to show 1% or something.
http://www.abc.net.au/radio/stations/local_brisbane/live?play=true
especially to those who know me in person, i wanted to share with you my joy today.. i spoke today very long with my jw family of my position (away from the org, separated and gay), without any criticism or attack or threat.
quite an achievement.. why about this change?
parents age is moving them to see the reality of the situation.
i have not been in a position to watch all of the interviews, so i'm sure that i missed a few things.
here is my question.
were either elders or ministerial servants accused of sexually abusing children, or were the accused just lowly r&f publishers or bible studies?
Keep us posted umbertoecho - this is really good stuff. Thank you!
Do you know whether there might be another "public" hearing day with JW's? They did an extra one for dear Geoffrey I wonder if they might schedule some more?
my jw spies tell me that the kingdom halls are empty compared to how they used to be, since i left 5 years ago.
not saying they're empty because of me though.. is that what you are hearing?.
Above the CO's? Straight to the Service Desk. More "mature" CO's go round on training visits with newer CO's. "Mature" CO's occasionally get a bethel heavy accompany them.
Busy busy busy busy.
or disfelowshipping si the bible does not teach it.
i have not been in a position to watch all of the interviews, so i'm sure that i missed a few things.
here is my question.
were either elders or ministerial servants accused of sexually abusing children, or were the accused just lowly r&f publishers or bible studies?
The main case with all the interviews was abuse by a convicted pedo who I believe was a Ministerial Servant. But the thrust of it was how poorly it was handled by the investigating elders. Then by the appeal committee elders. And the Branch Service Desk. And Legal Desk. And finally it highlighted that they were all obeying and protecting the Governing Body.
Other things came out such as 1006 cases of which none were reported to the police by investigating elders or the branch.
I also believe the records showed that some accused appointed abusers who may have got off on the two witness rule and its poor application were reappointed years later. Even some judicially found guilty and reproved or DF'd I believe were reappointed when the dust had settled and years had gone by..
Etc Etc Etc
Read it. Watch it.
man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
@scary 21
He did get jail time. The original "lenient" sentence of community service and rehabilitation etc was overturned and he got 18 months in the slammer. (Well 9 months I expect because if you are a good boy you get your sentenced halved)
i remember a little over 15 years ago, one of my first jobs at a grocery store, the manager was happy that they passed a new policy allowing them to grow a beard.
previously they were not allowed.
among the usa, i guess beards were considered not very professional still.
@Data-Dog
Yup.
The comments on beard are about right.
Trouser suits/Pant suits smart trousers on women in business or general settings has been normal in the UK since the 1980's but just try wearing them to your KH and watch the petty clipboard carriers break out in a sweat.
does anybody know how many district overseers there used to be either in the us or the uk ?
I think it was 8 overseen by the "Britain" branch. May have been as low as 6.
I believe Northern Ireland comes under the jw Ireland Branch (Dublin) so I'm not including that.
