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  The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

  by pale.emperor in

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  i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

  there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

  ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

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  freddo

  Good point Sir 82.

  Well if they push out 3 million by their vainglorious stupidity then that's fine by me!
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  The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

  there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

  ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

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  freddo

  But Sir 82 don't forget lack of enthusiasm in North Korea can mean the death penalty. The folks there are even more captive than jw's are.

  Back to the GB. If 3 million believing jw's adore them then 3 million range from WTF? through disappointment to despair and back to WTF?

  And that's not counting the disgusted "awakening class" and the "in but under the radar for family class" which must count somewhere in the hundreds of thousands?

  And like a venn diagram the overlapping third in most congregations in the west that apathetically put in/report less than 5 hours is probably increasing through 40% now.
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  The most sick statement put in JW print

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt 1973 p568.

  "did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers that stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become maturbators later on?".

  what sick fu... writing this article thought the the average person did this to keep kids quiet..

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  freddo

  @James Mixon

  Oh it is in print ... WT73 15th Sept p569 para 2 under the heading Prevention and Cure

  "Sleep on the side, not on the back or stomach."

  As if that would stop a red blooded teenager from jacking-off!
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  Circuit ASSembly low-lites

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.

  apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.

  thanking the g.b.

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  freddo

  WTWizard has a hat made of silver foil, not tin-foil.
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  fading/holidays

  by Drifting Away in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so for those that are fading, i have been fading for almost 6 months now.

  havent been to a meeting, assembly, service, etc.

  i no longer believe it is the truth.. how long did you wait before celebrating holidays, if in fact you are even celebrating them.

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  freddo

  If you want to fade and not get DFD do not, even after many years:

  Put your Xmas party on facebook ... ever

  Put a pumpkin on your porch at Hallowe'en

  Let a dub see your Xmas tree
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  Stuck

  by Cindy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i feel so stuck.

  i am married to a wonderful man.

  i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

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  freddo

  Oh it's so not easy - this waking up when you love your spouse dearly but they are devout.

  Don't rush, don't blurt out things that can come back and be used against you by those your husband in all sincerity seeks help from.

  Rather than attack "God" - how about inconsistencies in the literature that has made it impossible for you to trust "imperfect men" anymore.

  Go on jwfacts to find some real beauties.

  The "overlapping generation" is dealt with using the WT literature and scripture to great effect. ONLY USE WT literature and the Bible - no reference to "apostate websites" or the "apostate sources card" will trump the truth you tell and close you down.

  Another:

  Remember at the convention that hate filled video where the scandinavian young woman is forced back to Jehovah by her deluded parents whose father scowls at her contemptuously across the KH when she is df'd and ignored when she phones her mother?
  

  Now look up on jaydubya dotorg under FAQ's about "do JW's shun?" and see how it is portrayed there and ask your husband to explain why one thing is portrayed on the website and another at the convention?

  Stick to WT literature, take your time, cross your fingers and hope for the best.

  Oh and seek advice here! There are some crazies but most of us understand completely and want to help.

  Freddo

  P.S. You can trust "The Searcher" - he knows his stuff!
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  WT “Study” for 11th Sept 2016 – “Why Must We ‘Keep on the Watch’”?

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was really puzzled when i opened this edition of the wt magazine at the above “study”.

  what on earth has this picture at the top of page 13 got to do with christian watchfulness?

  i wasn’t making a connection at all.

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  @vidiot

  Yes it would be a good satirical "innocent" comment to make but trust me this old girl wasn't being satirical; her mother got baptised in the mid-1940's and she (the daughter) would have been at meetings from then on, getting baptised herself about 1950.

  She has (as an adult) seen the unfolding of 1975, the generation, the non generation, the overlapping generation too. Where else can she go at her age?
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  WT “Study” for 11th Sept 2016 – “Why Must We ‘Keep on the Watch’”?

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was really puzzled when i opened this edition of the wt magazine at the above “study”.

  what on earth has this picture at the top of page 13 got to do with christian watchfulness?

  i wasn’t making a connection at all.

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  freddo

  Classic comment at our hall from an 80 year old:

  "70 years ago we were told to keep on the watch because the end was close; and 30 years ago we were told the same ... so now we know it must be really close don't we?"

  
  
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  Handels 'Messiah'

  by zeb in

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  2. friends

  i had been watching handels "messiah' on computer.

  i mentioned this to my wife (uber) and got a "oh oh!

  " reply so it looks like this most wonderful work of choral music is proscribed.

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  freddo

  I had similar with "All things bright and beautiful" a hymn that was a favourite with small children in English schools. Hymn of Christendom? Big No-no.

  However I reasoned that "If God chose His Organization in 1919 (I know ... I know ...) then stuff written prior must be OK especially if there is nothing unscriptural about the words."

  Now no-one started singing non-jw hymns around me but it does put another perspective on the Hallelujah chorus doesn't it?
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  Anthony Morris III Autobiography ... The Real Truth

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower published anthony morris iii's autobiography last year ... "remembering my first love has helped me to endure" by anthony morris iii.

  i absolutely cannot believe how quickly he became a jehovah's witness.

  in the span of less than a year, he attended his first meeting, studied, got baptized, became a pioneer, and married a jw girl.

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  freddo

  I'll not forget the line in his autobiography Watchtower; something like "My boys make me look good".

  And that is what it's all about isn't it? Looking good on the outside.

  Whitewashed Grave at its best.