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  Some recent baptism figures in the UK - is there a "bounce back"?

  by freddo in

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  well, round my way (south of the uk) all the way up to and including the regional conventions this summer, baptism numbers have been extremely low.

  but i have just received news of three recent circuit assembly days where the figures seem to be higher.

  (all have been across the last three weekends at a uk assembly hall in october).

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  @stan

  In one case yes; in another definitely not; the other I don't know. You have a pm

  @Sanchy

  Huh?
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  Some recent baptism figures in the UK - is there a "bounce back"?

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, round my way (south of the uk) all the way up to and including the regional conventions this summer, baptism numbers have been extremely low.

  but i have just received news of three recent circuit assembly days where the figures seem to be higher.

  (all have been across the last three weekends at a uk assembly hall in october).

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  freddo

  Well, round my way (South of the UK) all the way up to and including the Regional conventions this summer, baptism numbers have been extremely low. But I have just received news of three recent circuit assembly days where the figures seem to be higher. (All have been across the last three weekends at a UK assembly hall in October)

  Assembly 1 Attendance 975 Baptisms 8 (Oct 2015 2)

  Assembly 2 Attendance 948 Baptisms 6 (Oct 2015 4)

  Assembly 3 Attendance 926 Baptisms 7 (Oct 2015 Unknown)

  How about where you are?
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  Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

  by Paul Mooney in

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  i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

  i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

  i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

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  Fantastic Paul and welcome! Please stay and post often - you cannot know just how encouraging this thread is!

  Your sister who delivered the letter to you ... can you get a letter back the same way?

  Or get her to read a letter to him and then and destroy it? Or if your mother is hovering all the time could your sister just wait 'til she takes a comfort break and quickly tell your father how you feel and become a clandestine "message - girl"?
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  @ Stan

  Yep the "gullible" but comfy widows are dying off. My parents "loaned" sums between £1K and £5K over the years for hall refurbs and turned them into "gifts".

  I can think of five sisters in their eighties and nineties who have died in the last three years.

  One left about £5,000 from her estate to the local cong. after the Society's money grab of 2015 (probably didn't understand it all and never changed her will) so it got sent to London with all the other dough - not a big pot but about £10,000 altogether). A shame really because even £5K would have helped her struggling grandchildren.

  Here's what happened with the other four - in accord with their wills.

  1. Age 94. Her apartment was sold and her cash assets (largely from her worldly husbands job related pension) totalling about £200K got divided up among kids and grandkids. Nothing to WTB&TS! Apparently she changed her will in 2011 cutting them out - saying they "were rich enough"!

  2. Age 87. As above but about £300K! Not a penny to the Brooklyn cash grabbers. Several small sums (£1K each) left directly to a handful of "needy ones in the hall" - fair enough.

  3. Age 89. She wanted half her money to go to JW's - if her unbelieving husband died before she did. Against all the odds he is still alive at 91 and has changed his will to leave all the lolly to the adult children! Result!

  4. Age 82. Left her money to her husband and it's touch and go what he will do as he is devout and deluded. We shall see. Thankfully no house to make up a large pot of money here.
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  Jonathon Edwards preached to the Red Indians

  by StopTheTears in

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  i never knew that the famous new england theologian jonathan edwards spent some years as a missionary to the red indian tribes.

  there are various modern ideas as to how one should preach to those completely ignorant of christ and the way of salvation, but edwards had confidence that the gospel is the power of god unto salvation for all people.

  perhaps someday those still living in pagan lands will accept christ and share in the blessings of america.

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  All that and a triple jump Olympic gold medallist too!
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  Need some advice Re: JW marking by a family member

  by William Penwell in

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  so anyone that has read some of my posts on here over the years knows i have done the slow fade over the last 30 years.

  i do not claim to be a jw and have not being in a kingdum hall now to attend a meeting or convention for religious reasons for almost 15 years.

  now i know the discussion on here from this past dc was the rank and file dubs have being pressured to distance themselves away from family members that are no longer active dubs that they deem are not living up to wt bible principals.

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  Just a curve ball here - are you and your girlfriend likely to get married?
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  Today's Text - Jehovah is my helper!

  by Divergent in

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  tuesday, october 18. jehovah is my helper; i will not be afraid.—heb.

  13:6.. “people often comment about how happy jehovah’s witnesses are,” says a longtime elder in a developing country.

  “they also notice that even poor witnesses are always nicely dressed and appear to be better off than others.” this harmonizes with the promise jesus made to those who put the kingdom first.

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  @Searcher

  The building plumbing leak you describe was in a jw monthly broadcast - one of the earlier ones I think. Sorry I can't be more specific.
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  Need some advice Re: JW marking by a family member

  by William Penwell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so anyone that has read some of my posts on here over the years knows i have done the slow fade over the last 30 years.

  i do not claim to be a jw and have not being in a kingdum hall now to attend a meeting or convention for religious reasons for almost 15 years.

  now i know the discussion on here from this past dc was the rank and file dubs have being pressured to distance themselves away from family members that are no longer active dubs that they deem are not living up to wt bible principals.

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  How much interaction did you have? Would ignoring it be a possibility?
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  Requesting a few dozen copies of any edition of Watchtower and/or Awake!

  by Pete J in

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  2. bible

  i need maybe 2-5 dozen copies of any edition of the watchtower or awake!

  magazines to distribute to family, friends, and neighbors.

  any reasonable condition.

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  @HereIgo

  Err ... not quite. It says on the home page all are welcome.

  Just because most on here are hurt by/disgusted by/weary of/etc. the WTB&TS and its Golden Calf JWdotORG doesn't mean that if anyone can show that JW's have the truth and represent any creator then we wouldn't respectfully listen and discuss ...

  
  
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses view the governing body differently since seeing them on the TV?

  by jambon1 in

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  i think this may be a bigger issue for the society than we realise.. when you consider that witnesses have now had well over a year of regularly seeing their 'channel to god' with their own eyes, what do you think they're thinking?.

  i'm going to put this as respectfully as i can; these men are clearly a bunch of utter clowns who are laughably inadequate to present a tv show, but also, they are now ridiculously discredited due to the absolute shite that they've spoken in these laughable productions.. consider things from a jw's perspective; tony morris, stephen lett & geoffrey jackson are 'the channel' that makes their religion 'special'.

  these men are the channel god is using to lead his people in the modern day.

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  Most love it, pay lip service to it, or at least do the "emporer's clothes" bit.

  However a few talk behind their hands and raise their eyebrows. It must be one of the causes for so much increased apathy in the western world.

  I know at least half a dozen in my hall have said at least something derogatory to me about the broadcasts. Ranging from (especially) dancing trolley carts, through Stephen Lett's antics to Jehovah finds plumbing leaks.

  One elder who is on most circuit assembly programs actually said to me it was more dignified when the governing body didn't show their faces.

  So a lot are thinking it. And a few are saying it quietly.