I was less sure that the basic tenets of JW'ism were wrong and I agonised about the consequences of resigning as an elder. Now I am much more settled in my mind and outlook.
I was a bit of a wanker back then. No change there.
Posts by freddo
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16Have you ever looked back at your early posts on here?
by stuckinarut2 inno doubt we are all overjoyed at how we have progressed since breaking the shackles of the society!.
for those that have been here on this forum for some time, have you ever looked back at the version of "you" that first started posting here, and compared yourself with where you are at now?.
i am overjoyed at how much i have grown as a person!.
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A review of the WT study, "Do not let your love grow cold."
by doubtfull1799 ina while ago someone (i forget who) was doing a series, a regular analysis, of wt studies from the current week.
i have't seen any for a while so i thought i'd contribute one.
have a bit of fun picking out all the unsubstantiated assertions and logical fallacies etc... so here goes: (if you enjoy it let me know and i might try doing another.
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freddo
I also noted the "evidently" single sister aged about 50 who was obviously supporting herself and studying hard and using her DiY skills to help the older sister.
I could not help but feel sad for her even though she is a Watchtower construct. I imagined her as a young woman, pioneering in the 1980's assuredly telling folk that this system wouldn't last beyond the generation that saw 1914.
I imagined her in her 30's doubling down when the generation definition started to change in 1995 and she put off having children and marriage because she could do those things in paradise.
Then her 40's when thoughts of "where else would I go" might be suppressed. And now in her 50's making the best of a menial job and plodding round houses on the ministry studying with mental cases to parade her deluded beliefs as a cure-all.
But maybe that is just my construct?
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Dunkirk.
by zeb ini have just seen the film "dunkirk".
do yourselves a big favour and go see it.
(not for kids).
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freddo
I disagree Steel.
As Waton lived through - any pro German feeling had dwindled by the late spring of 1940 and having smashed through the low countries and northern France they were not wanting to let the British escape.
Stretched German supply lines after six weeks of blitzkrieg met determined resistance at the coast from all the British could throw at them.
Remember the Royal Navy had scores of ships which were vital in the success of the operation and had guns that could fire fifteen miles inland and the RAF brought the Spitfire in to the front line in numbers and so could match the Me 109's and let the Hurricanes take on the Stukas, Heinkels and Me 110's.
England was only just over 20 miles away and so civilians were able to muster the flotilla of small ships which enabled the rescue.
I am not painting Dunkirk as anything but a defeat - but it wasn't a defeat in which the Germans could have walked in and taken 400,000 men and materiel prisoner.
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Hi from England
by victimofdeceit inrecently quit being a jw because i realised that beyond armageddon i was going to be ruled by people who cover up child abuse, not telling the congregations by their letter where the money they donated in the box is going towards paying compensation for legal battles which they caused, and also i was bullied by elders and discriminated against for being homosexual, even though i am not practicing it.
it wasn't until i threatened legal action for a breach of confidence that the elders were deleted.
so through the media and my own personal experience, i realised that they were no different to corrupt businesses in the world.
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freddo
You "threatened them (elders) with legal action for a breach of confidence" and then "they were deleted".
Way to go! Tell us more.
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Brainwashing Runs Deep in my Family
by Freesoul ini have successfully faded but my dad can't help but witness to me, so i have decided to do my research and answer him from the bible when he tries to get his point across.. so on my last visit to my parents house, he was trying to tell me that the jw's have the right religion because they go house to house, and got me to read luke chapter 10, so as he is reading it i said, isn't this interesting because in verse 7 says says don't from from house to house.. he couldn't cope with it and started saying i am taking it out of context, i replied this is what the scripture says.
even when it is written in black and white and they are the ones quoting the scriptures they still can see it.. he then said that i am unwilling to see the truth and could not talk any longer, go figure..
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freddo
When he goes on about Armageddon being really really close quote Luke 21 v 8 ...
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Meeting attendance for elders
by dkztcequ inwhat is the minimum meeting attendace for someone, who is of good health, has not children doesn't work in a job that requires travel and lives about 3 miles from the kh?
is 50% for clam and 75% for watchtower acceptable?.
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freddo
Depends upon what area you are in. If in "The West" then general meeting attendance has degraded markedly from 90% to about 70%. Many "listen in" with phantom illnesses that wouldn't stop them from e.g. going to work, shopping or eating out.
Also depends upon the body of elders world view as a group.
Usual rules apply - if the brother wishes to qualify as an elder he is unlikely to be allowed. If he already is an elder then one or two on the body will have a quiet word with him.
But if he is otherwise liked and used and especially if there is a need in the hall for elders then he will probably be allowed to continue with much tut-tutting and eye rolling from those in the cong that have their antenna up for inconsistency and hypocrisy.
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Convention Introductions 2017 "Don't Give Up!"
by accesible inconvention introductions.
2017 “don’t give up!” convention.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0bywm0b0qtwlsbzffazazotvfyxc.
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freddo
Well - any encouraging experiences from YOUR convention to share with the board as we are half way through the Don't Give Up season?
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Dunkirk.
by zeb ini have just seen the film "dunkirk".
do yourselves a big favour and go see it.
(not for kids).
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freddo
Apologies for the "cheese eating surrender monkeys" line. Poor taste in the circumstances.
It is a line from the Simpsons when the Scottish groundsman has to stand in for a teacher and take a French language class. Built upon by Jeremy Clarkson in Top Gear when referring to manufacturers of French cars.
It is a favourite banter-line among not so subtle Brits like me.
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I.B.S.A. , Its true meaning . You thought it meant International Bible Students Association ,think again.
by smiddy init has proved to be :.
international bull shit artists .........i.b.s.a.. and their history over the past 100+ years has borne this out.. how many times do they have to fail in :.
prophecys.
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freddo
Immoral Billion $$$ Acquirers
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a top tip from tony
by pepperheart inin the july broadcast of jw broadcasting tony morris one of the gb was telling people about what the jws do in iceland with the cart work and mentioned that they have plastic covers for the books and magazines so that they last longer, ialways thought the end of the world was so close ?.
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freddo
Whatever would we do without finger-wagging, image conscious, condescending Turd the Third?
Such a spiritual giant - you can see why Jesus has chosen him as part of the 144,000 kings and priests to reign in heaven with him.
Move over Peter, James and John - Jesus has a new right hand man!