Unwritten rules and regulations always rankled but were trumped by the "generation" false prophecies; the A.R.C. sealed the deal.
Posts by freddo
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81Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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AUSTRALIA: Religion start selling real estate assets to pay compensation to child abuse victims following Child Abuse Royal Commission
by jwleaks inpaying for the sins of their church.
australians are becoming less religious so congregations are getting smaller.
that means there are fewer parishioners to contribute money.. ..."they're simply looking at the dollars they can reap from the sale of this wonderful old building and i simply don't feel that i should be spending my weekends keeping the view clear," mr thomas said.. ...the royal commission into child sexual abuse exposed widespread paedophilia within religion and concluded that its leaders were at times weak, ineffectual, and even complicit.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-30/paying-for-the-sins-of-their-church/9586602.
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freddo
Err ... no Morpheus.
The OP posted "Religion" - not "jw's" on a forum where both jw's and ex-jw's are welcome. No fake news there.
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Memorial
by whatisthis12 inso i’ve been dating my boyfriend for over a year.
he left the jehovah witness community and we have been living together for one year.
he hasn’t kept in contact with his family because he was disfellowshipped and hasn’t gone to any meetings.
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freddo
Family unlikely to meet him for dinner, he's df'd carla,
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AUSTRALIA: Religion start selling real estate assets to pay compensation to child abuse victims following Child Abuse Royal Commission
by jwleaks inpaying for the sins of their church.
australians are becoming less religious so congregations are getting smaller.
that means there are fewer parishioners to contribute money.. ..."they're simply looking at the dollars they can reap from the sale of this wonderful old building and i simply don't feel that i should be spending my weekends keeping the view clear," mr thomas said.. ...the royal commission into child sexual abuse exposed widespread paedophilia within religion and concluded that its leaders were at times weak, ineffectual, and even complicit.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-30/paying-for-the-sins-of-their-church/9586602.
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freddo
Morpheus.
The original post says nothing of the sort.
The inference we can draw of course, is obvious.
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Memorial Weekend Questions
by Iamallcool ini just don’t remember when it was the last time the memorial falls on saturday.
anyway, do they meet for field service tomorrow(saturday)?
do they have their meetings on sunday?
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freddo
ShirleyW
No. The rule is you don't have the meeting (it is cancelled, tho' very rarely zealot elders might still rearrange it) if it falls on memorial day.
A hall shared by 4 congs in my large town is organising its memorials like this.
Cong 1 - using KH at 7.30 pm
Cong 2 - using KH at 9.00 pm
Congs 3/4 - renting a community hall at the same times as above.
They "rotate" as to who gets the main hall and who gets to rent.
Now one of those congs normally has its weekend meeting on a Saturday and is cancelling it completely. The other three who meet on a Sunday will meet at the KH at the normal times.
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July 2018 WT points
by The Fall Guy inpage 16, par.
18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?
if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.
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freddo
The GB are bloated, power hungry, legalistic pharisees loving their cherry-picked, twisted, self serving scriptures in visible scripture-containing cases on TV. Whitewashed graves.
NO new organisation arrangements come from a desire to be faithful or discreet.
All they come up with are the old faithful "do more in Kingdom serve-us" plus a ramp up of "sell your hall and give us the money - and then some more" and "wear the right things and dress the right way."
All else is reacting to outside pressures from a lower income and rising costs from child abuse enquiries and apostates exposing their wicked policies which impact upon their $$$$$ and personal power.
Speaking for God and denying responsibility when they get it wrong. 4 changes to the "generation" teaching from 1995 tells anyone about their relationship with a higher power.
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Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?
by Fay Dehr infeeling pressure to attend the memorial?.
as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.
if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.
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freddo
Excellent find and comments! Thank you.
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Loving a JW
by stevilla inhere’s a little back story.
i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.
we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.
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freddo
"stevilla, you are an exceptionally wise and understanding guy. "
/\ This.
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Loving a JW
by stevilla inhere’s a little back story.
i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.
we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.
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freddo
Okay ...
Don't pressure her. Stay on here and learn how to "leave jw's" try jwfacts website and you will see the option to "fade". To do this successfully takes years.
This is the only chance to get away from jw's with any hope of her having contact with her family. And this depends upon their following of the rules - and sadly if one decides to disobey the rules then the others may well obey them fully. A lottery indeed.
However if you do normal things that young couples do (and are caught or your g/f has a guilty conscience and confesses) - as in have a sexual relationship when not married - including sexual expressions of affection such as handjobs etc. then she will be disfellowshipped.
If you meet up and do not have a sexual relationship - such as going on vacation together unchaperoned even with separate rooms then the elders (if they find out) will convene a judicial committee and likely disfellowship her for "brazen" conduct.
If you marry without having been caught for any of the above she will be "marked" as bad association and "not quite shunned" at least until you marry and then a bit afterwards.
So if after reading the above you are in for the long haul - you have a chance.
Take it slow - try to meet up clandestinely and get to know one another properly - the next stage would be to make plans. Consult here often.
Have you got the patience for this? Is it really worth the effort and investment? Only you can decide.
It is a minefield!
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Loving a JW
by stevilla inhere’s a little back story.
i met this jw girl 4 months ago online and found out she was a jw 2 months later after confessing my liking for her.
we had a long conversation about it with her explaining what exactly a jw is and the rules and what not.
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freddo
And thank you to "Punk - Flying Mallet - ofnice" for your input!
Sadly, much of what Punky says is true.
Now stevilla ...
A few questions so we can help a little more and not shoot from the hip.
How old are you both. Is she baptised. What is her family background?
Thank you and welcome!