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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  freddo

  Back to LUHE

  Barry's video and post says there WERE journalists outside Leeds Crown Court. There WERE journalists outside Rolf Harris's trial.

  The media "ban" - which was actually a "temporary" court order, I believe - was because the Judge in the case ordered it.

  As you know the Judge in a case has the power and the duty to conduct a trial fairly and he believed that Tommy Robinson's conduct was a problem as it may have impacted on the case he was trying.

  At this stage I have nothing to say that he (the judge) was someone else's puppet or had some hidden agenda.

  The ban has been lifted and "everyone" can view/comment.
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  The key is in the word "Journalists" and "filming".

  Does the name Tommy Robinson evoke "Journalist" or "film-maker" in the average reader/listener?

  Do "Journalists" - as most people would describe them - generally ally themselves to a particular cause or do they try to report neutrally without inciting a point of view?

  He IS a correspondent I believe - a journalist even - but for whom?

  The Canadian far right "The Rebel Media".
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  Talked to a JW in the park

  by Xanthippe in

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  so in my lunch break at work today i walked in the park, just chilling out when a woman approached and offered me a leaflet.

  didn't have to read it i knew straight away who she was.. me: my family are involved with jws.

  the new world was supposed to come in the mid-seventies but it didn't.

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  Absolutely stunning job Xanthippe. Well done girl!

  However I must take issue with this statement you made ...

  "She thought I wouldn't go to school and I turned sixty last Saturday."

  I saw your posted pic of you in front of the Taj Mahal. You look in your late 40's at the most!
  

  
  
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  freddo

  Rolf Harris was sent to prison. Did the judge order a press blackout at the time of his trial, similar to the one issued at the Muslim rapists' trial? If not, why not?

  To answer your questions

  No ...

  Because there was no-one outside Southwark Crown Court shouting about the trial going on inside and who may have caused a mis-trial and had the defendant get off scot free. (As I posted on page one of this thread - before all the jumping to conclusions) ...

  "As for the case he is protesting about - there is a very real danger that (if he "skews" the case by highlighting details or inciting a view that defendants are already guilty) there is a very real chance that the defence will cry "foul" and there will be a mistrial and they might get off scot-free."
  

  Jeez no wonder so many of us - self included - fell for jw'ism ...
  
  
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  Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.

  believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.

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  Stan has just won the internet!
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  The Ride

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  the ride!.

  about 2 weeks ago i went on a one day motorcycle ride with about 50-60 other jw’s.

  (at least most of them claimed to be dubs) it’s an event that 2 jw fleshly brothers put on every year.

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  freddo

  Times have changed since you and I were young Giordano.

  Back then in the UK it was can I scrape together for an old car - OR - a motorcycle. When I was saving to get married I ditched the car for a year and just ran a motorbike!

  Nowadays (Youngsters today eh?) many can afford both a reliable car AND a decent motorbike.

  Good for them!
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  Cofty ...

  "The difference Freddo is that the authorities didn't believe or didn't know about the activities of Saville, Smith and Harris."

  Errr, I believe that the PM Margaret Thatcher knew of allegations about Saville and Smith before she recommended them for knighthood!

  But Savile was first brought to the authorities attention in 1963. More recently he was interviewed under police caution in 2007. Time and again suspicions were brought forward about him. (But like WT he was a multi millionaire able to bring legal weight to bear and with a reputation of lots of good charity work to his name and so he appeared "as an angel of light")

  Smith was mentioned in 1979 in Private Eye in connection with alleged abuse ...

  What appears to me to have happened with the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs is the "perfect storm" of cowardly do gooders not wanting to stand up against being labelled falsely as racists or faithists coupled with the reticence of the "shame" of "everyone" involved in worrying about their reputations in tackling child abuse.
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

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  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  "It took the law two decades to lock up muslim pedophiles and many now are walking free.

  Justice, I don,t think so"

  And it took just as long NOT to charge and lock up Jimmy Saville and Cyril Smith the arch pedos (who got KNIGHTED instead!) and to FINALLY lock up Rolf Harris - whose victims reported decades earlier and were ignored.
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  Another One Bites the Dust!

  by freddo in

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  it's goodbye to bristol - hengrove congregation of jw's and the inmates ... err ... members, will be sent to two other bristol congregations either side of it.. i'm told by two elders from bristol, england it is being disbanded on may 1st 2018. this is the 2nd congregation in this circuit to be disbanded recently - the 1st being portishead in late 2014.. hooray!.

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  freddo

  Just a bump to confirm that this congregation has indeed gone the way of the dodo as predicted and Bristol - Hengrove has been removed from the jborg website and only two congs now meet at this location.

  Some history.

  Bristol- Bedminster; Bristol- Hengrove; Bristol- Stockwood; and Bristol- Bishopsworth; were the 4 congregations that covered south Bristol (UK) in the 1990's. They had 3 halls with Stockwood and Hengrove sharing one and the others having their own.

  About 15 years ago Stockwood died a death and it was absorbed, then about ten years ago the three others refurbed the Bishopsworth hall and its accompanying Circuit Overseer's flat and all three shared it and sold off their own halls. The proceeds paid for the smart new hall and the balance (ta da!) went to HQ in London.

  In 2014 when Portishead (a cong in a satellite town near south Bristol) got disbanded one third of its members got shunted into Bristol- Bishopsworth.

  Now in 2018 with the demise of Bristol- Hengrove it has been shared between Bristol-Bedminster and Bristol-Bishopsworth.

  So in fifteen years 4 congregations and one third of another have reduced to two congregations.

  Grand theocracy ever increasing!
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  UK justice..

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

  yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

  his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

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  Password Protected states "That any ex-JW would seek to defend in any way, shape or form a high-control, fanatical religious ideology that seeks to enforce its worldview on anyone, really puzzles me."

  Bear in mind that Zeb (A poster for whom I have the utmost respect and whose tireless efforts in Australia with the ARC have won my enduring admiration) started this thread about the relevance of "UK justice" to Tommy Robinson and his conduct on May 25th.

  It appears that some on this thread have jumped the gun and having now got more evidence as to what went on and why, are digging their heels in and conflating TR's sentencing with the wider issue of Muslims tolerating and turning a blind eye to their own rapists and groomers. (Who most of, while not dreaming of committing rape or paedophilia will defend their religion's record to the hilt - a bit like JW's?)

  Tommy Robinson, to me has done a great deal to expose the tolerance - or at least turning a blind eye - of the Islamic community towards its own paedophiles and rape gangs. However he reminds me of the kind of apostate who shoots from the hip and can sometimes damage the very cause he espouses.

  My conclusions for the time being.

  Tommy Robinson got what he deserved, he's a twit.

  Tommy Robinson has helped expose Muslim rape gangs, he's a hero.

  Many/most? Muslims turn a blind eye to pedo gangs and won't report to the authorities.

  The authorities are only recently getting away from Political correctness overrulling shouts of racism towards Pakistani Muslims.

  Many/most? JW's won't report a suspected pedo either.
  

  Islam as practiced in the middle east and by extremists is not compatible with developed nations populations.

  UK justice is ok.