millions now living WILL never die...
oh and random walking troll doll stories as well..
hey folks,.
i'm wondering if you all could help me with my next video that i want to put up in the next couple of days (though i'm hoping for tonight), i want to come up with a list of the most prominent urban legends surrounding jws and then refute them whatever they may be.. i'm thinking there's the urban legend about the question on jeopardy that said the nwt was the most accurate would be a good one.
that one stems from an online powerpoint presentation named theological jeopardy and a book which was written comparing six different translations of the bible.
millions now living WILL never die...
oh and random walking troll doll stories as well..
perhaps this has been discussed before, but at the extjforo.com (the spanish ex-witness website) there has been a lot of discussion of the governing body's decision to either close or severely reduce bethel homes in europe - in particular spain.
there was even a letter sent to all congregations in spain explaining the situation.
bethalites are being asked to leave - they are not even getting other assignments.
we just had our special assembly day here - the visiting speaker said how most of spanish branch were leaving this week.
A direct quote
"there are a lot of unhappy people, unhappy at leaving their home and their friends - the branch overseers at breakfast reminds all that this is jehovah's will, not the will of man"
typically, i give at least 20% on my total bill.
if the service or the waitress is especially charming, maybe more.. i wonder, when you sit at a bar/restaurant and have a meal and drinks and then order a take out ( i do this for my mother quite often) are you supposed to tip on everything, including the takeout??.
when i stay in a hotel, i typically leave 2 or 3 dollars per day for the maid.
Tipping has always confused me. In ireland - for a service like Taxi etc, I would always round up to the next Note (ie , if a ride was 12€ it would be a 10€ and a 5€ and a "keep the change".
Here in a cafe , you always leave small change - so if a coffee costs 1€,30, 10 - 15c suffices. When you are with a group of people, and drinking a lot of beers on table services, it is usually about 50c per trip the waitress makes - so 4 beers each (for four people) you usually leave probably 2€.
The attitude here (both by punters and servers) is that they are just doing their job - like everyone else is...
i remember hearing about all the trouble there, and how the power factions left the jw's alone though because they knew they were nutral.
now that i'm questioning the rubbish i've been taught all my life, i'm starting to question it too.
it certainly would not fit in with everything i've heard that went on there.. any ideas?.
no - it is entirely true - i have many "friends" from the North who all told tales of people being nice to them (1st person, not friend of a friend)
The north was a complicated province, and the two sides respected people who were neither for or against.
That being said, the sides only represented a minority of the province - most people wanted to quietly get on with their own lives and stayed away from the conflict as much as they could.
from what i read on these threads it seems to me that the usa is a lot stricter than the uk, in all aspects of the religion.
- is this a general cultural thing, ie a lot of middle america are still a godfearing bunch, or just a witness thing, maybe a bit of both, and if anyone could provide examples of strictness, lets see how the same situation would be handled in the uk?
and is it easier going in cities than the country counterparts?
hmm vacations are normal here - they usually merge two congregations in August cos there are so many away for the whole month :D
To be honest I find spain a lot stricter than where I am from though our PO is english and really chilled out - live and let live sort of vibe. The PO of a congregation further a long the coast us run by an american from NY who is a tyrant and a half. A lot of the heavies in the bethel in Torrejon are english so it tends to be more chilled. The spanish hall that we sometimes go to, you can tell is chilled - all the young ones have stayed and are pretty damn balanced.
Now going to a hall in the states ....that's a different story. It always felt different..very different to what I was used to - it is hard to put my finger on what it was
i knew of a handful (which is too many) that were molested by a jehovah's witness.
it was not typical in my experience.
what about you???.
1 in a neighbouring hall - dealt with badly
, 1 in my own hall - dealt with well , guy spent max sentence in prison and is on sexual offenders register
according circuit overseer, brother splane will visit spain branch, in ajalvir (madrid).
the objective is to sell the factory and the 450 apartment complex, how much money?
more than 1.000.000.000 euros!
actually Billy - Splane does speak spanish - at the 2003 international in Barcelona, he closed in Spanish. It was slow, but still good.
As for tax laws - you can import/export 10,000€ out of the eurozone without declaring.
There is "talk" of a stadium talk in Madrid when he is here, and possibly in a southern city as well
hey there, cooks or chefs [outlaw]:.
i love to cook!
though alone, i decided long ago that i would not go the fast or packaged food route.
Olive oil is good from any where in the Med, Spanish extra virgin tastes rather different to Italian.
It is worth bearing in mind that my favourite dish (learnt at the hand of my friends italian grandmother, in Tuscany) is a putanesca (the whore's sauce :D). one of the theories of it's name is that the ingredients are so basic, that even a puta would have it in her larder (another theory is that it seems so wrong, but tastes so good :D) - all you need is black olives, whole peeled tomato, garlic (of course), anchovies (in olive oil), capers.
Fry the garlic in a gloop of oil, add the olives - once the garlic is slightly browned, add in a tin of whole tomato - add the capers and the anchovies - stir until the anchovies have disintegrated - then cover until you want it. The longer it simmers, the better.
I made it last night, total cost = €4 (around $5)
I am officially of the "throw it all in and see what comes out" school of cooking.
I always use seasonal veg (it is hard not to here) however - it tastes fresh and variates what you eat through out the year.
according circuit overseer, brother splane will visit spain branch, in ajalvir (madrid).
the objective is to sell the factory and the 450 apartment complex, how much money?
more than 1.000.000.000 euros!
Nah - I heard about this, the land around Madrid is highly zoned, I think 100 Million€ was what I head.
however, with Splane coming, he is coming here to put the positive spin on it, rather than the fact that they took the good years from an awful lot of people, and are now pushing them out with no social security.
all in the name of progress :D
we have read threads where statistics show that 2 out of every 3 people raised as jehovah's witnesses eventually leave once they get in their 20's to 30's and out on their own.
my children and my nieces and nephews are between the ages of 21 to 35 .
out of those 8 people - 4 of them have completely stopped attending meetings .
From personal experience.
The ones in my hall that i grew up with - out of 8 of them, 6 are gone now - some are successful, some have made a hash of their lives, but that would be the same if they were worldly or not
The ones I went to college with, are for the most part no longer active and have successfully faded 3/5.
Here - the congregations are FULL of elderly ones, my local hall has to import brothers from 20 KM's away as there are not enough young ones up and coming. Going to a DA is like going to Jurrasic park.
The overwhelming number of witnesses here in spain are elderly - there are perhaps 3 or 4 young kids in our hall, about 20% are in their 40's 50's and the rest are above 75 and with an average of 1 funeral a month.
The english congs have a younger demographic, but they are full of 30something single pioneer sisters wanting to "expand" their ministry.