Posts by rockmehardplace

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I Just Talked To An Old JW Friend About The Dumbness of The Organization

by minimus in

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he came by my work and we talked.

he pretty much became irregular (as a publisher), moved away and recently moved back into the area.

he's now a ms again and he's bemoaning his lot in life and sees a lot of stupidity within the "truth".

I Just Talked To An Old JW Friend About The Dumbness of The Organization

by minimus in

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he came by my work and we talked.

he pretty much became irregular (as a publisher), moved away and recently moved back into the area.

he's now a ms again and he's bemoaning his lot in life and sees a lot of stupidity within the "truth".

Minimus- It's were I am stuck. Do I call it laziness? No. Far from it. It takes way more work at doing something you are not supportive of than running with what you believe. Why do some of us do it? Family is probably the main reason. Maybe social interaction with the only ones you ever knew. Could be because you think you can be the answer to the problem and correct a situation, even if it is only with a few. Who knows? Each of us have to answer that one for ourself. We make concessions. We make deals with ourselves on what we will and will not tolerate in our life. Some of us will tolerate alot in order to keep a relative level of peace in our lives. Your friend may be lazy? Or he may need an outlet to vent his feelings even though he is stilll between his rock and hard place.

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DF or DA what do you think the difference is?

by Rosey in

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i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.

i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.

before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.

rockmehardplace

My experience -

DF'd - we shun you because we love you and want to win you back.

DA'd - we shun you because you are evil and you will be destoryed.

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In the News: Jehovah's Witnesses: 'End is near'

by Elsewhere in

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http://www.wptv.com/news/local/story/jehovahs-witnesses-prepare-believers-for-the-end/ho63h5z-q0akzmfqhmrwvw.cspx.

jehovah's witnesses: 'end is near'reported by: eric glasser .

email: [email protected] .

rockmehardplace

BB - booked out two or three years? There are some that are booked out around five or ten years from what I was told last year. But who needs to worry about honoring a contract when then end comes. They will all be bird food anyway.

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FACEBOOK

by joself in

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hey pls what do u guys think about facebook?

can a jehovahs witness sign up?.

rockmehardplace

I know several JWs who have Facebook accounts. All of them have their settings as private, so you have to be a friend to view it. They also are very selective as to which "friends" they have on there. I do not personally have one, but only because I would rather not have anyone know what I am doing at any given time unless I tell them. One of my closest JW friends has one and from time to time he would show me what some others are up to. A few months ago, he showed me one of his JW friends on facebook who is in a neighboring congregation and looking at some of the pictures posted it looked as if they were at a Christmas party. He asked me what I thought about it, and I told him that it was not my place to comment, that I do not know the full story behind the picture, and honestly, it was none of our business what this person was doing. Nothing was said since and from what I know, nothing has happened to that person either. That is my reason for not wanting one. Not that I would do anything wrong according to the Board of Directors standards in NY, but people who have nothing better to do than make up stories to one picture need not be involved in my life.

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Is KH really a place of "Public Worship"?

by cameo-d in

have you ever known anyone to just walk in off the street?.

to me, kh's don't seem too obvious.. the one's i have seen are not too obvious.

they all seem to be tucked away in residential neighborhoods and some have very discreet signs.. none i have ever seen advertise their times of worship services.

rockmehardplace

I agree with Blondie. I travel on occassion and up until my last trip, I always find a local KH and attempt to go to the meetings while there. Most times I am either ignored or only a few people talk to me since I am in the typical meeting clothes. However, one time I went to a KH that I had been to previously, but I wore jeans and a polo shirt - I had just come straight from a company event that was outdoors and we were required to wear jeans and tennis shoes. People were all over me. Asking my name and where I was from. One sister came over and before saying anything else she told me that "her son was good with helping people on Bible studies and I could have one if I wanted." Her son looked maybe 15 and possible slight head trauma. I said no and told her where I was from. She then asked why I was not in a suit and proceeded to walk away.

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No phone calls please...

by rockmehardplace in

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for all those that read my post from the other day, i have been asked that if i am to miss any meetings i must call one particular elder per his request.

so on sunday i woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip.

i "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before.

rockmehardplace

PP - long story short - Yes, I am an elder. I will one day share that long frightful journey on how I recently got there.

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No phone calls please...

by rockmehardplace in

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for all those that read my post from the other day, i have been asked that if i am to miss any meetings i must call one particular elder per his request.

so on sunday i woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip.

i "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before.

rockmehardplace

"Sorry, but why does this elder expect you to call him to let you know when you won't be at the meeting?" - Password Protected

Good question. I want to understand better myself. I know that in the past he has stated that he holds me to a "different" standard than others because of my "potential". However, he also has issues with me and some of my family and we have butted heads in the past over different "rules" or what I would constitute as being his rules. I think this is his way of saying he is still in control and he will run things his way. Just a power trip.

As for "potential" - well he would just crap if he saw me here. Which by the way, he wont. He could not turn on a computer if he had a bottle of wine, flowers, and Barry White singing in the background.

No phone calls please...

by rockmehardplace in

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for all those that read my post from the other day, i have been asked that if i am to miss any meetings i must call one particular elder per his request.

so on sunday i woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip.

i "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before.

rockmehardplace

For all those that read my post from the other day, I have been asked that if I am to miss any meetings I must call one particular elder per his request. So on Sunday I woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip. I "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before. No call to say I was not going to go. I just decided to not show up. All day Sunday, I waited and waited for my phone to ring with "Brother Call Me" wanting to know where I was at. But I never heard anything.

All seemed well until Monday. I decided to not go to work due to holiday since I have the option to take off and thought that I might catch up on some things around the house. During the morning, I was in the backyard working and my wife comes around to the back saying that a car pulled up in front of the house with a bunch of people from the Kingdom Hall. I asked who it was and she said she only saw "Brother Call Me" getting out with another brother. So I walked around the front of the house and there they were, standing on the front steps just talking. After the typical hello, how was the meeting, sorry we missed you this weekend for the meeting and field service, "Brother Call Me" asked if I remembered our conversation from the other day. I told him I did and he asked why I did not call to let him know where I was.

I froze. I had a million things I wanted to say, many of which were involving phones and places to put them. However, all I could muster was "I didnt want to." He just stared at me. That was the stangest 15 seconds of silence after that ever. Finally, the other "brother" jumped in and stated that he hoped things were ok and that he hoped to see us this week. I turned and walked back around the house and left them both standing there. No good bye, no thanks, no get out of my yard. Nothing.

Why is something so small as this such a big issue? I know some elders and MS' that have missed meetings for weeks and no one said anything. The control issues some have are insane!!!

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No phone calls please...

by rockmehardplace in

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friends

for all those that read my post from the other day, i have been asked that if i am to miss any meetings i must call one particular elder per his request.

so on sunday i woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip.

i "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before.

rockmehardplace

For all those that read my post from the other day, I have been asked that if I am to miss any meetings I must call one particular elder per his request. So on Sunday I woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip. I "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before. No call to say I was not going to go. I just decided to not show up. All day Sunday, I waited and waited for my phone to ring with "Brother Call Me" wanting to know where I was at. But I never heard anything.

All seemed well until Monday. I decided to not go to work due to holiday since I have the option to take off and thought that I might catch up on some things around the house. During the morning, I was in the backyard working and my wife comes around to the back saying that a car pulled up in front of the house with a bunch of people from the Kingdom Hall. I asked who it was and she said she only saw "Brother Call Me" getting out with another brother. So I walked around the front of the house and there they were, standing on the front steps just talking. After the typical hello, how was the meeting, sorry we missed you this weekend for the meeting and field service, "Brother Call Me" asked if I remembered our conversation from the other day. I told him I did and he asked why I did not call to let him know where I was.

I froze. I had a million things I wanted to say, many of which were involving phones and places to put them. However, all I could muster was "I didnt want to." He just stared at me. That was the stangest 15 seconds of silence after that ever. Finally, the other "brother" jumped in and stated that he hoped things were ok and that he hoped to see us this week. I turned and walked back around the house and left them both standing there. No good bye, no thanks, no get out of my yard. Nothing.

Why is something so small as this such a big issue? I know some elders and MS' that have missed meetings for weeks and no one said anything. The control issues some have are insane!!!