Wow! Great stuff Jim!!!
I'm very impressed!
Was worth the wait...
Inq
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well, well, well ... well, well ... well, uhmmmmm ... this ought to be good .
these two ladies were standing there ... one was obviously an elder's wife ... say late 40s ... likely aux.
Wow! Great stuff Jim!!!
I'm very impressed!
Was worth the wait...
Inq
[now for the rest of the story ... it begans again below with ### in front of the continuation] .
well, well, well ... well, well ... well, uhmmmmm ... this ought to be good .
these two ladies were standing there ... one was obviously an elder's wife ... say late 40s ... likely aux.
LOL @ Amazing... leave it to you to have TWO commercial breaks... lol
Inq
as some of you know i have been have a few health problems lately.. i went to the doctor today to pick up my application for a handicapped parking permit.
when we talked he said he would sign it for a year.. well he signed it as "permanent disability".
in one way this is good because if they don't figure out the problem and find a solution i won't have to keep applying for it.
Hey Lady...
I'm thinkin of you ... (((((Lee)))))
Inq
on august 27, 2003 mars will be closest to earth than at any other time in recorded history.
it will be at 34,646,418 miles away from earth.. mars went retrograde on july 30,2003 to september 28,2003. mars is the warrior planet.
he represents applied energy in your birthcharts.
Hey Cathy...
I enjoyed your post too... don't worry bout the boys... they're just havin their own p*ssin contest... keep posting...I enjoy reading them.
TTFN
Inq
in my ongoing research to discover "if" and "where" the watchtower society (jehovah's witnesses) may be connected to, or engaging in, mutual support with other religious bodies, i am discovering some interesting links ... i thought you may find this one of particular interest: .
a person who disconnects is simply exercising his right to communicate or not to communicate with a particular person.
this is one of the most fundamental rights of man.
There was an organization formed a few years ago where, JWs, Scientologists, Mormons, some vampire religion and even Satanists, etc. got together to work out how to deal with dissenters... I can't remember it... CESNUR or something like that... it was in the H2O days...
What is frightening is the Scientologists are well known for the "Fair Game" policy... which means that they can act against a persons reputation, wealth and worse.... if they are "declared" which is the same as Disfellowshipped...
Not only that.. but Scientologists have quite the legal history... not the least of which is infiltrating and breaking into several government offices and stealing records!!!!! About everything...
If the WT is learning about these tactics... or applying them...it's a scary thought...
Inq
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simon, it finally worked....please disregard all those desperate emails to your posted email addie..... congratulations,.
frannie b
LOL @ tiny tart tink.... I gotta mind like a steel trap... lol.. well today anyways...
Inq of the who whos and ya ya's class...
i feel like absolute s*(& after a long conversation with my sister this afternoon.
she's in the org.
and told me that if i won't have a relationship with my parents then she won't have one with me.
Hey Kitties...
I'm so sorry about what has happened to you... And I understand the "guilt" part very well... My mother was not a JW... but she was abusive...and quite manipulative... Through most of my life, I always thought there was something wrong with me... I just could not, in any way shape or form, find approval in her.... It took a long time.. to figured out it wasn't me.... It was her... she had the problem and I could not resolve that for her.
There's a saying that I think applies here... "You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family". Because your family is quite toxic to you and yours, it's not too much of a leap to know that having much to do with them is going to hurt. Your already set up to punish yourself, and they will see to it that you do...
Like the other replies you have had here, there really is no reasonable and painless solution to having a relationship with them. But you can have a full and happy life, complete and successful without them. You need to discover the tools that make that possible.
You have the most important one already... a good husband...
Here's some you might consider:
You have the right to be happy!
You have the right to beleive anything or discover God any way you see fit or not, even if it's not the same as your family.
You have the right not to put yourself or your husband in a position of pain, which means you don't have to continue hitting yourself over the head over and over again... They've made the restriction, not you, it's their intolerance, not yours, it's their problem and you need not suffer their consequences...
You can enforce your rights anytime you choose.
Because it's "family" we tend to put ourselves through the ringer for them... but try to look at it objectively... what is your return? What do you get out of it? If it's only pain and guilt and depression, or worse, then why continue? You can set the perameters for their involvement with you at least as well as they set them for you. If they don't like it, what do you lose? Do you lose anything beneficial? I don't think so...
It's funny, my sister thought that our lives were different too... until she developed anxiety disorder and went for therapy... When we talked after that, as we still do, I realized a lot of what happened was just too traumatic for her to deal with, and she simply did not recall a lot of what I remembered. It's the brains way of protecting you.... selective memory....
Now when we talk, and she's not sure about something that happened... she's amazed that I remember the way I do... I was a year older... and it's all still there... hard to forget.... but she remembers enough to put the pieces together with mine, and it starts to make sense to her...
Kitties, my advice and support simply is: If the price you have to pay to have anything to do with your family is pain, depression, going against your husband, and potentially suicide... then my dear, you have to ask yourself, are they worth that price? I can tell you from the outside looking in, that I would say no, not in their present condition. You can fill your life with good friends who are more than enough family, good people, good works, fun, pleasure and quality, all the things you hope for. You can live a real life, and you don't have to pretend for people who just do not accept the realities in their own lives, let alone yours.
I'm not saying it will be easy, but it looks a whole lot better than trying to hang on to something that can kill you. Try letting it go, and see what happens... you might be very pleasantly surprised.
I hope it all goes well for you..
Best wishes Kitties... you deserve them...
Inq
edited to change a coupla commments... (I can go on so...)
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simon, it finally worked....please disregard all those desperate emails to your posted email addie..... congratulations,.
frannie b
LOL @ Frannie and Tink...
Your here! Doc helped me out...tanx again doc...
Now it's all normal again... yay
ttyl
Inq
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seems you've been helping a lot of people with their settings to get them on the new server, just wanted to say ((( thanks ))) .
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Wahoo Doc!!!!
your my hero!!!!!!!!
Thanks ever so much!
*blows kisses at Doc* ---> millions of em...
Inq
a couple days ago minimus asked the question (anyone notice he's always asking questions?
me: snobbery, ignorance, flourescent lighting and hands that are shedding innocent blood.
bradley
LOL... what a great thread!!!
My turn offs are:
Liars
Theives
Manipulators
people who take improper advantage of my time, hospitality, patience
(which includes the silly woman who knocks on my door early in the morning to look for their 18 year old kid, who is never here anyways...who is also the silly woman who knocks on my door or beep the horn at 2 am looking for their 18 year old kid.... and then asks why I don't go over for tea????? Can I slap her???? Please?????)
people who don't realize when a telephone conversation has ended...
men who talk to my boobs.... I've actually named them because of this... Betty and Barb, the Boob sisters, basically mute since birth....LOL
Nosey people
People kindly inviting me to their church... How many times do I have to say thanks but no thanks...
people trying to preach anything to me... including religion, amway(which is like religion) , mary k (which is like a woman's only religion), etc... I don't want to sell your damn products okay?????
I guess that'll do for now...
Inq