Posts by darnkid

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Sure fire fast track route to the big DF...

by creativhoney in

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ok so when i finally didnt care, i did attend a jc, but i wanted closure, deep down i actually wanted them to df me.

- has anyone else been in this scenario, and what did you say at your jc that ensured the right action was taken.. they asked me how i felt about my relationship with jehovah - i simply said, i dont feel anything since i dont have one.

i dont pray, i dont study, and i dont show much interest.

darnkid

As stupid as it is I will tell you my story, embarrass myself if you will

I got divorced, the ex DA'd himself. My entire family are witnesses, just couldn't DA myself. So I started smoking. Dumb, I know. However, it did relieve the stress of the times.

For six months they kept having meetings with me, trying to get me to quit. I would go, say I would work on it and smoke in the car on the way home (nerves!) Finally at the last meeting I just said I didn't want to quit and they would just have to do what they were going to do and get it done and I left.

I don't regret being tossed out, however it is tough having no family, especially my two girls. I miss them terribly. Regret-no, anger-BOILING OVER!

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Since Leaving The "Truth" Is Your Life Better?

by minimus in

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you are told that if you "go back to the vomit" of the world, you will be miserable.. is your life better or worse since you've removed yourself from the organization's hold?.

darnkid

Igadsen: In my 34 years as a Witness I NEVER felt close to God. In the last 4 years I have come to know God, REALLY know God. He is not the uptight, vengful God the Witnesses threaten everyone with. When Jesus came to the earth and died he fulfilled the law. Yet the organization is too bogged down with rules and "laws" just like they were in the days Jesus was on the earth, which was what he kept trying to tell them.

I did not leave the organization (I won't call it the truth since it ISN'T) to do whatever I wanted. I am not breaking any of the 10 commandments. What I am doing is living a life, finally, WITH God, I am able to see God in all things. I don't practice hatred as the organization does. The organization has taught my children to hate me. What kind of God would tell people that? Not to mention that your Awake magazine from earlier this summer acknowledged that people have the right to make religious choices and that no one should have to choose between God and their family. Another reason I left-HYPOCRITS.

I suggest you read "Crisis of Conscience" by Raymond Franz. A real eye opener on your "truth". It is more like power and control than truth. Actually more like a bunch of guys getting off on playing God with peoples lives.

What will you do when you die and don't wake up in the "new order" but in heaven in front of God for judgement???

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Holiday time were you sent to the library or not?

by restrangled in

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there are many generations of xjws here.

i'm curious as to what happened to you in school.. were you sent to the library during festivities, allowed to stay home, or allowed to participate?

enter the years if you can and the number of jw's with you.. mine: mid 1960's to mid 70's.

darnkid

Early 70's, early grade school got to stay home.

Mid 70's went to the library.

Junior high in late 70's just hung out in the class room watched others trade valentines, some would give me one anyway, just wouldn't tell mom & dad nor take it home.

Fortunately in high school no one was into that.

I got SO TIRED of telling kids "we get presents all year round"---NOT!!!

How lame. We were jealous as hell that we didn't get presents!

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A question for all ex jws AND JW's here, btw I'm new too

by EndofMysteries in

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so far quite dissappointed from what i've seen.

this is very very important, first i"ll address the non/ex jw then i'll address the jw's (jw's scroll down if don't wanna see the first part).

i see so many who have concluded that it was not 'god inspired', a lot of what is being done, and their conscience told them that many things conflicted with jesus teachings and the bible.

darnkid

EndofMysteries: I can only speak for myself. I DID NOT LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION SO THAT I COULD DO "BIG BAD IMMORAL THINGS". You are an idiot if you think that is why people leave.

I believe in God, in Jesus and in the Holy Spirit. I just believe they are more loving and forgiving than the witnesses believe. If you really have questions as to why people leave-read "Crisis of Conscience" by Raymond Franz, a former "anointed" member of the Governing Body. It is a real eye opener.

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Has the wts ever declared what they consider constitutes a cult?

by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

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blondie perhaps?

has the wts ever put in print what in their opinion is a cult?

a bold move on their part to be sure, but definitely within the scope of their brashness.. cheeses..

darnkid

I am reading Crisis of Conscience by Raymon Franz. They definitely ARE a cult. He doesn't say it, but the accounts he gives and how they play with peoples lives-I can't see how they would not be a cult. It is so sad and scary, still having my children in that.

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Emailed Talk From Governing Body Member Last Weekend

by tryingtoexit in

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what's good a-ebody??

just thought i'd share this email with yall real quick.

it still amazes me that i was a jehovah's witness for 27 years and never thought twice about these types of talks other than i need to make sure my act is together when the end comes, and now i can't even read/hear it without getting mad.

darnkid

I have just started reading Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz and it is weird to read this post and KNOW what Ray Franz is talking about. Makes me more desperate to find a way to get my kids out.

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Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?

by flipper in

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i thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.

the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.

so what is your story and reasons ?

darnkid

Well, I would have tried. But I am sure not for long. When I was 16 I told my dad I didn't want to be a witness. "You live in my house..." I know he did it cause he loved me. I was finally free at 36. That was 8 years ago and I don't regret leaving, I just wish my kids could see how wrong it is, what they are being taught to do to me. It rips my heart out, over and over.

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Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?

by flipper in

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i thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.

the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.

so what is your story and reasons ?

darnkid

I tried to do it quickly. I didn't have the guts to da myself so I took up smoking. For 6 months they kept giving me chances. I finally told them just do it, I'm not quitting!

If I had known that my kids, who went out with me and their dad (who was/is my ex), would go back to truth with their dad and at 18 shun me and cut me off, I might have tried a real good fade.

Hindsight is 20/20.

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New understanding

by darnkid in

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i am disfellowshipped and i have two girls who live with their dad.

all of them are witnesses.

my oldest is 19 and baptized.

darnkid

Billy, you know they will say that is only if you live in the same house! I have found there is no reasoning with them. That is why I was never very good at the door. The householder could stump me every time!

Of course, they are not making me choose between my faith and my family. They have taken away my choice.

But at the same time I can only imagine the hell cantleave is experiencing, knowing it will get worse. Why would anyone believe God is so cruel??

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New understanding

by darnkid in

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i am disfellowshipped and i have two girls who live with their dad.

all of them are witnesses.

my oldest is 19 and baptized.

darnkid

I did not mean to be rude. I am just facing this world alone-and by that I mean without my kids. All my life growing up as a witness I was told God is merciful-until I did something that was not approved of, then they were not so forgiving. My mother, father, brother and family, my children are all witnesses. I have no family now. What kind of God would ask a child to hate their parent? That is not a God I would want to worship-therefore I don't.

It is funny how they shun those who choose not to worship their way anymore, but they go door to door trying to get people to abandon the faith they have for theirs knowing they will be shunned by their old faith. Makes no sense.

Cantleave: I could not have just faded away-my family would have hounded me with no mercy. I think disfellowshipping was the only way out for me-sadly. I hope things work out for you, sincerely.