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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus in
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women in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!

for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.

now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
meangirl

Ok Atalaya let me break this down for you:
Nobody said the society doesn't allow the women to preach.....That is firmly established. That is why it is hilarious that they demean women in every other way and then say "ok now ladies go and preach cause after all the women telling the good news is a large army.".......At the same time sisters are expected to go and preach to people they don't even know (which takes courage) and TEACH. Yet in the congregation they are viewed as second class citizens who are to be demure and quiet. They keep the women in fear by saying "be careful of a Jezebel influence" (which interestingly applies to both MEN and WOMEN yet always is applied to women). Women are told to be in subjection to their husbands and go go along with a decision even if they don't agree to help make it turn out okay......Just a couple of years ago there was an article about weddings and the good ole boys up in Brooklyn made it clear that the wedding is not the bride's day at all and the groom is to have the final say over decisions made.......They have told women to respect their rapists. I can just see Loesch taking it up the rear by some rapist and saying "Yes sir May I have another!!!" If you look at the articles in the early 80's when Women's Lib was really at its height the society totally downgraded feminism. They made it sound soooo unchristian. They have never been sensitive to women's issues. They might right now at the time period we live have softened a little bit but the underlying chauvinism is there and always will be. They say don't put your trust in men yet they qoute Paul's words of hatreds towards women as gold. I truly believe Jesus would be disgusted by their views on women and maybe go up to Bethel and overturn their tables.....
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus in
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2. friends
women in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!

for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.

now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
meangirl

Soooo true minimus!!!!!! Oh and Atalaya you can qoute this one little sentence supposedly praising women. I got news for you I can qoute soooooo many more that are just downright demeaning.....You don't want to go there with me!
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According to bookstudy, it's ok to beat wife.....occassionally
by JWinprotest in
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i apologize if this has been mentioned, but i don't have the time to come on here as often.

yesterday's bookstudy on divorce got my shorts in a bit of a knot.

apparently, according to the god's love book, a wife could consider legal separation from her husband if she is physically abused, but (get this) only in the case of extreme physical abuse, and if the wife's life is in danger.
meangirl

To really see how the society views women simply put the WT CD in and look under "women"......sooo very interesting. I did and was completely disgusted! They view women as incapable of making decisions and being more emotional than reasonable and absolutely LOVE to perpretuate that stereotype. They demand women be in subjection to their husbands and go along with the decision "even if they don't agree."......Hmmmmmm sure that is a level playing field......If that is their basic views then why is it so hard to see that abuse of women would be a problem in that organization? Also let's get the facts straight. While I will not deny that women can be abusive in relationships (and I do NOT agree that is okay) domestic violence is an issue that effects more women than men. If you look at this website:
http://www.ndvh.org/get-educated/abuse-in-america/ You will see the follwoing statistic:
1 IN 4 WOMEN, 1 IN 9 MEN IN UNITED STATES ARE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES

Also if you look under rape under the society CD you will see that at one time the society said that a women should "treat her rapist with respect"........Hmmmmm, if the society expects a woman to treat a man she doesn't even know who is raping her (which probably would include hitting her, gagging her, choking her, slapping her) with RESPECT then why the hell would they would take a situation of a husband abusing his wife as a problem?????? DUH!!!!!

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According to bookstudy, it's ok to beat wife.....occassionally

by JWinprotest in

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i apologize if this has been mentioned, but i don't have the time to come on here as often.

yesterday's bookstudy on divorce got my shorts in a bit of a knot.

apparently, according to the god's love book, a wife could consider legal separation from her husband if she is physically abused, but (get this) only in the case of extreme physical abuse, and if the wife's life is in danger.

meangirl

Well, Blues Brother here is a "reality check" for you. When I was 14 my alcoholic father (who was studying and not baptized) often got drunk, beat up on my mom, broke pretty much everything in the house and one time it got so bad that one of the neighbors called the police. So about 2 in the morning me and my mom get hauled off in a police car (cause my asshole dad wouldn't let my mom take the car she drove cause it was in his name) and so we knocked on a sister's door and she took us in. I begged my mom not to go back but I also remember the stupid elders mediating between my mom and dad. One elder told my mom "he said he was very sorry and wouldn't do it again".....Surprise surprise she went back. Yeah for me!!!! I believe those elders influenced her decision. I remember her commeting after that experience that elders should have some sort of training in domestic violence issues......The "reality" is that organization does NOT respect women in any way except to do the preaching work and even then it is "ify." If the "governing body" doesn't respect women then how in the world can the "men" (and I use the term loosely) respect women including their wives????? Think about it.......

"Won without a word"

by Beachwalker in

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meangirl

AMEN!!!!

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According to bookstudy, it's ok to beat wife.....occassionally

by JWinprotest in

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i apologize if this has been mentioned, but i don't have the time to come on here as often.

yesterday's bookstudy on divorce got my shorts in a bit of a knot.

meangirl

It used to make me ill when at assemblies they always gave an experience of a sister who was getting the crap beat of her by her worldy husband but she chose to say with him and she "won him over without a word" and wow, he is here today getting baptized!!!! YIPPEEE!!!!

Sisters crying in the kitchen/lobby

by highdose in

years ago i was at the revamp of a kingdom hall.

one of the sisters told me that since they got rid of the kitchen it was so much better, becuase there were always sisters out there crying!

and now they have no place to go, so they just have to stay in the hall and listen to the meeting!.

meangirl

If the brothers were treated like the sisters they might be crying too.....Hey, and according to the society women are just emotional idiots so they are just doing what is expected of them. Now on the other hand if they were cool, calm, collected, intelligent and assertive they would DEFINITELY be called into the backroom and counseled but heck if she is crying cause her stupid idiot husband beat the crap out of her, or post traumatic stress from a rape/molestation they really don't give a SHIT!!!

DO JWS REALLY WAIT TIL MARRIAGE???

by sweet in

do jws really wait til marriage to have sex?.

meangirl

Me and hubby did. I have to honestly say that is one thing I do not regret and neither does hubby. However, the more I got to know people the more I found out that alot did not wait.

Discouragement

by asilentone in

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i sense that you are pro-jw.

meangirl

I want to say welcome to the boards as well. I feel like anybody should be allowed to come here and anybody should be allowed to give their opinion (UNLIKE THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY)...... Ok here's a question for you. You say you have been a witness for a long time and I am genuinely interested in your response to this: In the 70's it was deemed wrong to receive organ transplants and ALOT of people died feeling they were being faithful to the scriptures (or maybe the society??? ) OK then "new light" comes out in the 80's saying it's a "conscious matter" now.....So what can you say to all those that lost their lives and loved ones????? When it really comes down to it does another human have a right to tell somewhat what their conscious should be? It makes no sense. The society about 5 years ago had an article in the question from readers about pinatas and they said they were a counscious matter because today pinatas are not used in the same way they were originally (which was devil worship by the way).....OK so I got news for you nobody gets their heads chopped off at birthdays so we could say birthdays aren't viewed that way anymore......They make no sense. WHen it comes down to it they expect the "sheep" to follow without question and be "obedient". They somehow intertwine obedience to "men" as obedience to God........They use fear displeasing God to keep people following them blindly and never questioning. All I have to say is they have alot of blood guilt on their hands........What do you think?

Discouragement

by asilentone in

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i sense that you are pro-jw.

meangirl

While I appreciate your optimism there is a point where enough is enough. One can only get beat down and picked on and forced to follow man made rules with no biblical basis before you reach a breaking point. I used to think like you once but then reality set in. It has to happen for each person at their own time but when the rose colored glasses come off watch out. You are in for a rude awakening!