Posts by meangirl

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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?

by LoneWolf in

hi, peeplezs,.

down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.

if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.

meangirl

@ N.Drew:

"What does a 15 year old female want? Few 15 year olds know what they want."

EXACTLY! So what business does a 20 year old MAN have even viewing a 15 year old as a wife and mother and brainwashing her to believe that is her sole purpose in life? If some 20 year old man tried to make my 15 year old daughter a wife and mother.....hmmmmmm he would go to jail. Because it is wrong.

"I think my point is age is relative."-Uh no that is why there are laws......

Would you have been happy if some 20 year old MAN was eyeing your 15 year old daughter to marry?.......

" Imagine one of the very young girls on the street whose pimp is selling her as young as 10 years old. Would not that be her ultimate dream that someone might teach her how wonderful the role of wife and mother might be?"

Uh, I imagine her dream would be to get off of the street and quit being used for sex and abused by her pimp. Maybe her dream would be to go to college and have a profession. Maybe after years of her body not being her own perhaps the idea of being a mom just doesn't appeal to her? How can you even try to justify yourself with this reasoning? I mean really.

"Dear meangirl, why do you look at the dark side of the story?"

Funny, brainwashed JW's ask "apostates" that all the time. If being honest and facing reality is looking at the dark side then guilty as charged. The older I get the more I see that the saying "Ignorance is bliss" is so true.

N. Drew I am sure you are a nice person but I just canot justify pedophilia. It's wrong. It's unhealthy. Sorry but this is one issue I will not bend on.

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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?

by LoneWolf in

hi, peeplezs,.

down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.

if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.

meangirl

@ N.Drew yes it was 50 yrs ago but that still does not make it right. Alot of injustices were done in Bible times a loooooong time ago but that still does not make it right. Here is the fact. A 20 year old MAN had in his mind he was going to teach a 15 year old GIRL how wonderful her role of wife and mother would be. Does that not sound creepy to you? Sounds very unhealthy. Sounds to me like he is passive aggressive and used the excuse to show a GIRL her wonderful purpose and role as a wife/mother was really his way of keeping her under his thumb. My question, what did this 15 year old GIRL really want? Was she really old enough to decide to become someone's wife? What's right is right. It doesn't matter if it was last week, last year or 50 years ago. Downright creepy.....bleh.

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COs visit sep 2011 - feb 2012

by dozy in

apologies if already discussed - the second cos talk discusses 4 "important" areas where jws need to consider the biblical principles involved.. answers on a postcode ( clue - one word - 2 letters - 1st letter is "n" ).

should a true christian?:.

(1) use a social networking website.

meangirl

Freakin weirdos.....

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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?

by LoneWolf in

hi, peeplezs,.

down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.

if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.

meangirl

@ N.Drew:

Think twice!

15 is not too young to marry in some cultures.

For many people secondary school is finished at 16 or 17 years, then they marry.

In some countries (Ethiopia for one) girls are given in arranged marriages as soon as they begin menstruating which for some is as early as ten years young.

I don't think we want to model Ethiopia as a model on how to treat women. They circumcise little girls over there. That is their culture. Is that okay? Women have no rights in Ethiopia. I ask you N.Drew how would you have liked to be given in an arranged marriage as soon as you began menstruating?.......I mean seriously.

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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?

by LoneWolf in

hi, peeplezs,.

down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.

if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.

meangirl

Uhhhh, a woman can be anything she wants.....believe it or not some women do not believe their sole purpose in life is to bear children......shocker I know.....

A little background first, though. We married very young. I was 20, and she was 15. One of my primary goals when I married this little freckle-faced girl was to do all I knew how to be sure that she could find joy and happiness in her role of wife and mother. I wanted her to be glad she was a woman (especially my woman) and found fulfillment in her role in life. Needless to say, that is not something that a man can force on a woman, and for it to happen he has to control the environment in such a way that those qualities can grow on their own. I compared it to planting a garden. All one can do is plant the seeds, cultivate them, water them, make sure the ground has the nutrients needed, and the proper amount of sunlight is available. God will do the rest.

Eeewwwww, sounds very creepy......So just curious did you every ask your "little freckle-faced GIRL" what she wanted out of life? Did she think her only role in life was to be a wife and mother? A shame a child did not get to make an informed decision about what she wants out of life. I hear many on here who are angered that "children" get baptized.....how is marrying a man 5 yrs older than you when you were 15 and have him imposing his view of women and what they want out of life? Just wondering. There is no way in hell I would let my daughter marry at age 15.........child abuse. Again eeewwww.

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Submission and stupid rules

by Lady Lee in

what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.

meangirl

Now this thead makes sense!

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Stressful Session with Uber-Zealous Parents--The Mermaid needs a hug!

by Cadellin in

okay, for those of you who don't know, i was raised jw by really great though uber-zealous parents.

i'm now an adult and have been inactive for about two years due a bunch of reasons, the primary one (or at least the one that got the ball rolling) being the pathological intellectual dishonesty of the wt in how it handles secular quotes and citations.

anyway, my parents are aware of all that and have left the issue alone for about the last year.

meangirl

(((((HUGS)))))

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Watchtower Not One Female!

by Marvin Shilmer in

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watchtower not one female!.

today i uploaded a new article to my blog taking a fresh look at a now 40-year-old watchtower illustration of what it terms the modern-day theocratic organization of jehovah's christian witnesses.

something is missing in the picture.

meangirl

Cause there all a bunch of pigs!

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As A JW Were You Generally Feeling Guilty Over One Thing Or Another?

by minimus in

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i believe the witnesses keep people in the cult by means of using guilt as a tool.

it seems people who leave the religion tend to stop using meds and anti-depressants.

exjws seem more content and less filled with worry and guilt.. what do you think?.

meangirl

Yep all the time. So glad not to feel that way anymore.

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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone

by Band on the Run in

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friends

an earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.

women make up the majorty of witnesses.

they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.

meangirl

Interesting comments. As a female I never wanted to "follow". I bought my huband his wedding band and he bought me my ring. I think I am the only female I know who has actually bought her fiance's wedding band but that was very important to me. I always wanted a partner, someone who was my equal. I didn't want him to lead me. I wanted to journey together. Status is important to me and I am very goal orientedand somebody referred to those qualities as male in a previous post.... I am constantly looking at what things I can acheive. I am never happy stagnate. I am also someone that gets told "You think too much"......

Sometimes I wish I could just be like other "women" and be content with my "role" but that is just not me. Now I know why they say "ignorance is bliss".......