If you think about experiences they always give, it is never of the wife who was getting abused and decided she had enough and left her spouse. Then she lived happily ever after. No it is always, Sister Meek was abused by her husband for 55 years and do to her conduct the jerk was "won over without a word".......He is getting baptized today. Round of applause please.....Just like they always give experiences of high school graduates who turned a million dollar scholarship to pioneer and they are so happy cleaning toilets and Jah is providing. Yipppeee. It is not ever of a high school graduate who went to college and is now so happy to be making a decent living and cause the pressure of eaning a living is not hanging over their head they can concentrate on "spirtual matters." They make their points loud and clear. It is called peer pressure/ mind control.
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According to bookstudy, it's ok to beat wife.....occassionally
by JWinprotest ini apologize if this has been mentioned, but i don't have the time to come on here as often.
yesterday's bookstudy on divorce got my shorts in a bit of a knot.
apparently, according to the god's love book, a wife could consider legal separation from her husband if she is physically abused, but (get this) only in the case of extreme physical abuse, and if the wife's life is in danger.
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"origins" of things like holidays...what jw started this crap?
by oompa ini do not believe there is any bible precedent for the wt teaching that the origin of some celebration is important...as in it is pagan...and back in 1914 holidays and b-days were ok...i know that changed, but why?...why did all of a sudden it matter the origin of it?...i tried to get wife to see the folly of the wt position of saying pinatas dont matter now despite an evil disgusting satanic wicked origin...to no avail.
on a side note of similar interest...who came up with the teaching inanimate objects could be possessed by demons when it never happened in the bible and how often do they do that anymore?.........thanks....see i can still be serious!.......oompa.
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I think they wanted so much to be "different" that they started looking for things that would make them stand out. Now of course they have shot themselves in the foot because pretty much everything in our society that we live in today has pagan origins. Also since they came out saying pinatas were a conscious matter "since they are not used for the same thing they originally were".......Got news for them that pretty much applies to everything. So stupid.
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Well I am out of a mind controlling cult so by my actions I would say I am a thinker. You on the other hand are the mindless ridiculer.
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Ladies, would you have preferred to talk to a female elder in the past?
by asilentone inladies, would you rather to confess your sins to a female elder rather than a male elder?
i am sure a good number of you has already confessed to the elders.
well, i did confess to the elders 20 years ago because i felt so guilty and i did not want to die at armageddon, thanks a lot to the watchtower for the guilt trips in their literature!
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Good question. I think on some matters women would be more comfortable talking to another woman. In order to understand certain situations I think you would need to go through them. There are some things men will never understand such as postpartum depression for example. I am not saying men cannot be compassionate about certain subjects but like the saying "you never understand a person until you walk in their shoes" certainly would apply.
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus inwomen in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!
for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.
now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
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Sorry to burst your little bubble Atalaya but you haven't proved anything here except your a mindless idiot. I know I know I am a meanie apostate and all but your just stupid. I could go on and on about how brothers have mistreated women......FOr example a bookstudy conductor said and I qoute "Women are good at stuff like remembering anniverseries and giving out gell well cards but men are really equipped to handle the "heavy things." Hmmmmmm that was at the bookstudy on the family life book. I hope you enjoyed counting your time today. You have completely reinforced to me once again why I do not attend meetings anymore. Thanks, you did me a great favor!
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus inwomen in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!
for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.
now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
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meangirl
Ok Atalaya one more time. Show me a DIRECT COMMAND BY GOD saying women are to be in subjection. AGAIN I am NOT saying to show me a qoute from PAUL. Oh and by the way, Paul starts off his OPINION by saying "For I (I not JEHOVAH) desire the women to be silent blah blah blah blah." OK so yes we all agree Paul gave his opinion. Again give me one DIRECT COMMAND BY GOD saying I desire women to be in subjection to their husbands. Again patiently waiting. Oh and you say the congregation supports the hard work of the sisters. They only support the hard work of the sisters if it is something they approve (i.e. raising children, ironing shirts, cleaning toilets and of course preaching). If a woman decides to have a career or go to college you know that is something they will not support. Okay, so again waiting patiently for a DIRECT COMMAND BY GOD FOR WOMEN TO BE IN SUBJECTION TO THEIR HUSBANDS AND TO BE SILENT IN THE CONGREATION. LET ME REINFORCE NOT A QOUTE OF SOMEBODY'S OPINION BUT A DIRECT COMMAND BY GOD.
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus inwomen in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!
for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.
now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
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Oh and Atalaya you yourself just stuck your foot in your mouth: "The sisters are happy to be part of a BROTHERHOOD."........You are so sexist and yet don't even realize it......
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus inwomen in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!
for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.
now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
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meangirl
Good points everybody!!! Oh and Atalaya you still haven't shown me a DIRECT COMMAND BY GOD saying women were to be in subjection.....I am STILL waiting patiently!!!!
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus inwomen in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!
for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.
now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
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Good one MrsJones!!! OK Atalaya, let's reason like this. If something is important to Jehovah a direct command was always given by HIM. For example, not to murder, fornicate, adultry, etc. I want you to show me a direct command from God saying women are to be in subjection. Let me clarify I am not talking about qouting Paul or some other bible writer. I am talking about a DIRECT COMMAND from God......I bet you can't find one cause there is not one!!!! The only direct command God gave concerning women were:
1. To be fruitful and become many (given to Adam and Eve)
2. That child were to honor their father and mother (which if you think about it was quite radical at the time since it was such a patriarchial society where women were neither honor nor respected)
So besides Paul's saying (who obviously had a problem with women) show me a DIRECT COMMAND by God.....I am waiting patiently.
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Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View
by minimus inwomen in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!
for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.
now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.
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Atalaya I am a sister and have talked with many sisters. When you get the "sisters" talking the way they really feel comes out. Oh and by the way the role they have in the organization today is how "men" have set it up NOT Jehovah. If you look at how Jesus treated women when he was on the earth it is opposite of how the society treats women. Basically the way the society has it set up for women can be likened to this illustration:
There is a Supervisor at a company who has a wonderful employee. That employee is hard working, smart, etc. The potential for that employee is limitless. Yet the Supervisor makes this statement "OK I am the Supervisor and you are to be in subjection to me. You will NEVER be over me. You are not qualified to make decisions and take the lead because your eyes are green and not blue like mine. Therefore that makes you inable to handle "real responsbility." You can do all you can to make me look good so when we turn in our yearly report I will come out with wonderful statistics. Ok now go and do as I say and don't question it. Just be in complete subjection. You will never go beyond date entry into the computer even though you could probably do so much more. After all, that is how our corporation have set it up. Every body has a "place" in this corporation and this is yours."
Oh and by the way Atalaya are you male or female? I am thinking male.......Go ahead and go back to your organization where if you have a penis you can make all the decisions, tell people what to do and abuse your power.