Posts by meangirl

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A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?

by LoneWolf in

hi, peeplezs,.

down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.

if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.

meangirl

Uhhhh, a woman can be anything she wants.....believe it or not some women do not believe their sole purpose in life is to bear children......shocker I know.....

A little background first, though. We married very young. I was 20, and she was 15. One of my primary goals when I married this little freckle-faced girl was to do all I knew how to be sure that she could find joy and happiness in her role of wife and mother. I wanted her to be glad she was a woman (especially my woman) and found fulfillment in her role in life. Needless to say, that is not something that a man can force on a woman, and for it to happen he has to control the environment in such a way that those qualities can grow on their own. I compared it to planting a garden. All one can do is plant the seeds, cultivate them, water them, make sure the ground has the nutrients needed, and the proper amount of sunlight is available. God will do the rest.

Eeewwwww, sounds very creepy......So just curious did you every ask your "little freckle-faced GIRL" what she wanted out of life? Did she think her only role in life was to be a wife and mother? A shame a child did not get to make an informed decision about what she wants out of life. I hear many on here who are angered that "children" get baptized.....how is marrying a man 5 yrs older than you when you were 15 and have him imposing his view of women and what they want out of life? Just wondering. There is no way in hell I would let my daughter marry at age 15.........child abuse. Again eeewwww.

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Submission and stupid rules

by Lady Lee in

what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.

meangirl

Now this thead makes sense!

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Stressful Session with Uber-Zealous Parents--The Mermaid needs a hug!

by Cadellin in

okay, for those of you who don't know, i was raised jw by really great though uber-zealous parents.

i'm now an adult and have been inactive for about two years due a bunch of reasons, the primary one (or at least the one that got the ball rolling) being the pathological intellectual dishonesty of the wt in how it handles secular quotes and citations.

anyway, my parents are aware of all that and have left the issue alone for about the last year.

meangirl

(((((HUGS)))))

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Watchtower Not One Female!

by Marvin Shilmer in

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watchtower not one female!.

today i uploaded a new article to my blog taking a fresh look at a now 40-year-old watchtower illustration of what it terms the modern-day theocratic organization of jehovah's christian witnesses.

something is missing in the picture.

meangirl

Cause there all a bunch of pigs!

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As A JW Were You Generally Feeling Guilty Over One Thing Or Another?

by minimus in

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i believe the witnesses keep people in the cult by means of using guilt as a tool.

it seems people who leave the religion tend to stop using meds and anti-depressants.

exjws seem more content and less filled with worry and guilt.. what do you think?.

meangirl

Yep all the time. So glad not to feel that way anymore.

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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone

by Band on the Run in

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an earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.

women make up the majorty of witnesses.

they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.

meangirl

Interesting comments. As a female I never wanted to "follow". I bought my huband his wedding band and he bought me my ring. I think I am the only female I know who has actually bought her fiance's wedding band but that was very important to me. I always wanted a partner, someone who was my equal. I didn't want him to lead me. I wanted to journey together. Status is important to me and I am very goal orientedand somebody referred to those qualities as male in a previous post.... I am constantly looking at what things I can acheive. I am never happy stagnate. I am also someone that gets told "You think too much"......

Sometimes I wish I could just be like other "women" and be content with my "role" but that is just not me. Now I know why they say "ignorance is bliss".......

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R.I.P George

by fade_away in

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if it wasn't an extremely late (or extremely early) april fools joke, our friend no room for george seems to have departed......from this website.

apparently falling victim to a devastating love bomb that claimed his ability of thinking for himself and his freedom of heart, mind, body and soul.

i was wondering if maybe in the future he will be on the convention stage in front of a couple thousand people talking about his "experience".

meangirl

Well I am not surprised. He is the one who started the thread seriously asking if women want to be objectied?........sorry but that clearly showed me he does not have thinking ability....as the answer to that should be a no brainer.....I feel like he is only able to see things from his point of view and never really look at the big picture. Just my two cents...whatever the case may be I wish him well.

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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone

by Band on the Run in

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friends

an earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.

women make up the majorty of witnesses.

they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.

meangirl

@ Garyneal: This topic is JW women in the org and how they have it. If you compare the life of a JW man and a JW woman, women definitely have it harder. You said society (not the society) men have it hard as they can't cry etc. I agree with that but we are talking with THE SOCIETY not in society. So everything I am saying is refering to life as a JW male/female as was the topic of this thread.

I find it incredibly sad that I have to debate the fact JW women have it much worse in the org. I am honestly baffled that some here just cannot see that. Again what is being done here by some debating the fact that JW women have it much worse than JW men is the same as saying that white people had it worse during the civil rights movement.....it does not make sense.

It is sad when you get out of an oppressive organization and think you have found others who truly care about justice and want to see all people treated fairly to find out that in fact chauvinism is very much alive on this board-this board where I was supposed to find enlightened people like myself.

Wow, I have been accussed of being a lesbian as I guess in exwhyzee's mind that was such an insult that further shows the kind of people on this board. The fact that the plight of women in the org is not taken seriously by all on this board just amazes me. These same ones felt something was wrong in the org and perhaps were mistreated and so they left only to come here on this board and not show compassion to those who there is no denying are so discriminated against in the org (women) that it should not even be a debate.

When you tell a human that they were created only to "compliment" another human and you constantly tell them they are to be submissive that is so much more of an injustice than telling someone they are to be the "head" and "lead". How could women in the org ever be managers, etc. when they are to allow their husband to make the decisions (except of course what to cook for dinner and what color to the paint kitchen)....If you can't see the injustice on that and how it does not compare to what JW men are put through.....well there is nothing more I can say to you.

To those who showed support and took the thread seriously, thank you. I still feel very hopeless as I left an org that tried to oppress me to another group of people where some sadly have that same attitude. Sometimes I wonder why some on this board even left.....

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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone

by Band on the Run in

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friends

an earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.

women make up the majorty of witnesses.

they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.

meangirl

Oh and don't even compare circumcision of little boys to little girls, completely different. Again your ignorance is showing......pleae educate yourself. Thanks

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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone

by Band on the Run in

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friends

an earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.

women make up the majorty of witnesses.

they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.

meangirl

Well, exwhyzee you can correct my spelling all day long but it is obvious you are the ignorant one as you still don't have the point of this thread.

ig·no·rant Adjective /'ign?r?nt/

1. Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

2. Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular:

Oh and I love how the lesbian jokes come up because I evidently must be a lesbian since I care about women's right. After all, all feminists are lesbians right?.......Sorry to burst your bubble. I have been happily married to my husband for 16 years. So joke if you must if it helps you feel better. I know dealing with your oppressive situation you gotta do what you gotta do to get by.....again my sympathies to you for being born a white male....hang in there llittle camper.