I'm so tired of these biblical circle jerks. I refuse to respect anyone who, after being exposed to the monumental evidence against the bible(and all other holy books for that matter), refuses to reject all of this superstitious nonsence for what it is.
These people are still living 2,000 years ago. Look at Reniaa's terminology -- she refers to governments as "Caesar". You know who else does that? Other Christian sects who have refused to enter the 21st century, that's who. I've got bad news for you, Reniaa: the Caesars haven't been in charge of Rome for a while. In fact, the last time they were in charge they welcomed the new fast growing cult of Christians with open arms and spread legs. It's unfortunate that they repayed the favor by destroying many of Rome's libraries because they thought that the scienctific knowledge held within was from Satan, thus sending Humanity into 1,000 years of darkness. Aparently, some things never change. I'm tired of fighting your stupidity. It's 2009. Get fucking used to it.