April I appreciate what you're saying. As a person that's health conscious I would want the same for someone I love, but I think the only thing that's a bit different for me is that I can't be completely identified with how their health would affect me in terms of loss. Naturally if they are so addicted as to be incapable of a meaningful relationship, it would be out of the question. However, if say that is the only one bad quality they have I would be inclined to show that I love them regardless, though I would make it very clear that I don't love that habit because I love them.
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Would You Kiss A Smoker?
by Englishman injust wondering!.
i remember when i was about 16 having a snog with a girl who smoked.
it really was like sticking your tongue into an old ash tray.
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It's simpler than you think.
by Introspection inok, with all this talk about beliefs and whatnot i thought this might be a good post.. i have addressed it before but i think i can make it clearer now.. it kind of comes down to this: there's no such thing as a true thoughts, but all thoughts are real.
all thoughts are real simply in that you're having the thoughts - even if it's not true, it is true that you are having a thought.
more mind?
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Six, I did mean the latter. I am simply looking at it from the perspective of "actual information" as you say. One can have the honest attitude of "well, given what we know this is the logical conclusion" - as opposed to a black and white right or wrong - it is simply the best we can come up with.
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Big Increase on this Forum
by DevonMcBride ini've been keeping track of how many new people have signed onto this forum for the past week and i'm amazed.
there have been about 50 new sign-ons during the past week.
wow!.
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Sings: "Hail the apostasy every increasing - wonderous expansion is now taking place ..."
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It's simpler than you think.
by Introspection inok, with all this talk about beliefs and whatnot i thought this might be a good post.. i have addressed it before but i think i can make it clearer now.. it kind of comes down to this: there's no such thing as a true thoughts, but all thoughts are real.
all thoughts are real simply in that you're having the thoughts - even if it's not true, it is true that you are having a thought.
more mind?
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Yeah it is rather long and convoluted, though stating it directly usually doesn't get the message through. What would constitute being sufficiently informed though? And you can only be wrong if you think you had the truth in the first place, it involves judgement. Anyways, it doesn't really matter how much I talk about it, for people who treat it as a concept it will be just a concept, those who see that's just the way things are will see it. A person can agree with the statement but just go about everyday life without having that in mind, it becomes just another thing heard stored away in memory.
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ATTN: JW'S...WHERE IS YOUR LOVE???????
by Jacqueline inwhere is the love that the societyclaims is amongst it's people?
i began studying january 2001. i had met a jw man that i truly fell in love with and found that i would at least look into the religion to see if it was for me.
i began studying with his sister, till she consciously no longer felt that she could continue studying with me, due to the fact that she did not approve of her brother dating me, since i was not a jw.
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You know I've been meaning to mention something.. The bible says love your neighbor as yourself, well just look at how JWs treat themselves - if they think that's love no wonder other people are treated the same way!
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Would You Kiss A Smoker?
by Englishman injust wondering!.
i remember when i was about 16 having a snog with a girl who smoked.
it really was like sticking your tongue into an old ash tray.
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Actually I would. I would prefer not to, but I have to look at the whole person. Let me put it this way: I'd rather be with a smoker who's got the rest of her life together than a non-smoker who's messed up in the head, like certain religious people we know.
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It's simpler than you think.
by Introspection inok, with all this talk about beliefs and whatnot i thought this might be a good post.. i have addressed it before but i think i can make it clearer now.. it kind of comes down to this: there's no such thing as a true thoughts, but all thoughts are real.
all thoughts are real simply in that you're having the thoughts - even if it's not true, it is true that you are having a thought.
more mind?
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Syn, I didn't mean that thoughts and reality are separate at all, but thoughts are only a part of reality. Thoughts exist, so of course they're real, but even if you have a perfect replica of something in your mind or modeled in a computer, or just a duplicate, that is still something different. It's sort of like identical twins right, because even if two people or two things are completely identical, once you put them in the world - which is what I'm considering reality - then the way the environment interacts with them will change them in different ways. It's simple really, even if you have the complete plans for some machine or whatever, the plans are the plans, and actual product is the actual product. And of course, it takes someone who knows how to read those plans to even compare them with the actual product. There is the matter of "accurate knowledge" to go by dub language, but I am merely pointing out the difference between knowledge and that which it points to since people don't seem to distinguish between the two. When you're talking about something that deals with ultimate reality as religion attempts to do, that is a BIG step in the wrong direction. Instead of taking the attitude of "this is the best picture we have based on the knowledge we have", it becomes "the picture is reality." It could be that it's a very, very accurate picture, but from a psychological perspective to have that ego centered attitude will only cloud your thinking.
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ATTN: JW'S...WHERE IS YOUR LOVE???????
by Jacqueline inwhere is the love that the societyclaims is amongst it's people?
i began studying january 2001. i had met a jw man that i truly fell in love with and found that i would at least look into the religion to see if it was for me.
i began studying with his sister, till she consciously no longer felt that she could continue studying with me, due to the fact that she did not approve of her brother dating me, since i was not a jw.
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Jacqueline, I would say don't worry about your form of worship. The thing is, God can read your heart right? The love is there no matter what you do, you don't need to be doing certain specific things to have love for God. It's clear that your heart is full of love, just take care not to limit that by ideas that some people have about it. Love takes many forms, the works follow the love, not the other way around.
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It's simpler than you think.
by Introspection inok, with all this talk about beliefs and whatnot i thought this might be a good post.. i have addressed it before but i think i can make it clearer now.. it kind of comes down to this: there's no such thing as a true thoughts, but all thoughts are real.
all thoughts are real simply in that you're having the thoughts - even if it's not true, it is true that you are having a thought.
more mind?
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Inq, do you have a "story"? Were you a JW? Kind of curious.
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It's simpler than you think.
by Introspection inok, with all this talk about beliefs and whatnot i thought this might be a good post.. i have addressed it before but i think i can make it clearer now.. it kind of comes down to this: there's no such thing as a true thoughts, but all thoughts are real.
all thoughts are real simply in that you're having the thoughts - even if it's not true, it is true that you are having a thought.
more mind?
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Life is just some electrons and chemicals reacting in the brain to sight, sound, and pressure to certain nerves, unless of course you are blind or deaf or both.
Ken, I would also point out that the ideas of electrons, chemicals and so forth are only more concepts that we use to organize a system of knowledge - it is also a set of perceptions, even if it is a logically organized framework. Most people seem to go from one framework to another - how good that framework is is not something I'm concerned with, but rather just simply dropping all preconceived notions - taking a really fresh look at everything.