Nice post Randy. IMHO The example of 2 witnesses is a generalization. We don't know for certain why every witness leaves or starts to doubt the WT. That is unless, EVERY person comes on here and gives their experience. All this hooplah on here of Rick giving "apostates" a bad name and scaring potential ExJWs back in is Bullshit. Come on........there is various of things that could scare those persons on the fence. Just on this board, with the many topics discussed of the WT and the unrelated. You don't think the views on Sex, drugs, alcohol, entertainment, and new beliefs will not shock the fence sitter? Give me a break! Rick's Sixscreens is sooooo "influential" and yet is claimed to be so irrelevant on here. There is no GB for ExJWs and there is no unity. We all are different but we may have the same experiences. That's about it. If that fence sitter so happens to visit Six Screens or comes to JWN. They'll be scared and skeptical to start with because of the cult programming. Many on here will say that Six Screens will turn that person away before JWN. That's all depending on their psyche at the time. If they're going to leave, they will leave eventually. Hard to stay in the WT after having doubts. This World can be both Scary and Beautiful.
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Now that Rick is gone......
by outsmartthesystem indo you think there is any chance we can get 20571pnt428571......8675309....r2d2....10-4 over and out to quit bombarding the message boards with ridiculous apocolpytic fortune telling?
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The Feeling of a Jehovah's Witness
by whathehadas inthis was how i felt being in the borg.
just replace the stick with a book bag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01vfavrv_ae.
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This was how I felt being in the Borg. Just replace the stick with a book bag
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Whathehadas's Recovery and Metamorphosis
by whathehadas ininspired by saba and c.s................................i'm back to making videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i8ajxynr2o.
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yes my situation is tough right now, dealing with family thats still in and the pressure to not look depressed. im at the point where i can care less if im disfellowshiped or not, so thats why im not scared to show my face now. bp i am a quiet person but this seems to attract most witnesses that i know. they see me as a person that is easy to get along with since i dont create any friction in the congo. sorry for the type by the way, im typing on my phone and cant use quotations and caps.
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Could you eat breakfast after watching this at Bethel?
by Dogpatch inthis is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).
address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.
http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.
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whathehadas
could you eat breakfast first then listen to this shiiiiiiiiiit? thats the real question
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Did you fake underlining the WT?
by shepherd ini read on another topic " i remember when i used to carry microphones years ago in the jw cult- only about 30 % had their wt's pre-studied, the rest just wing it i truly believe" and it reminded me that people will assume you are not familiar with the material if you have not underlined, and that there will always be those who observe the lack of ink and consider you must be unprepared (and so 'weaker' than them).. many times i used to fake prestudy just for that reason.
its easy to do, underline a random sentence or 2 in each paragraph or the sited scripture.
you can wizz through an entire article in 3 minutes....did anyone else do that?.
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those study articles were so boring. i hated every minute spent studying them. that was the motive for me to quickly go through them underlining answers that i was more than likely not going to comment on anyway at the meeting.
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Whathehadas's Recovery and Metamorphosis
by whathehadas ininspired by saba and c.s................................i'm back to making videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i8ajxynr2o.
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Inspired by Saba and C.S................................I'm back to making videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i8AJXynr2o
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Refuting Franz's Crisis of Conscience
by irondork ini'm about halfway through crisis of conscience.
some pretty extraordinary stuff in there.. wondering, aside from telling people not to read "apostate material", has there been any official denial or refutation of the books contents by the watchtower society, official or otherwise?.
side note: franz is a wonderful writer, if a bit repetitive in places.
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whathehadas
in order to refute it............they would have to read it. i highly doubt many would attempt to, even in secrecy
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Showdown with my family
by fade_away inso i was at my parents house yesterday and an apostate vs j-dub showdown commenced.
i was merely just asking questions since they always told me that if i had any questions to feel free to ask.
so i did.....but they seemed angry at the fact i was asking such questions to begin with.
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whathehadas
In that type of situation......It's a loss with a capital "L". Either you start questioning the "Bible based" beliefs or the glue that holds the Borg together, the Red flag for the Witnesses will fly up faster than you can say Jehovah God. If you want to get them to question, ask them something in regards to their methods such as counting time for Field Service. When does the time start for service? When you leave your house to meet the group? When you get to the Kingdom Hall? When the meeting for service is over? or When does Field service time stop? When you stop at dunkin donuts? When you stop for a restroom break? etc................
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assemblies and alcohol
by pedal power inour dc coming up this weekend, i hated them and the only thing that kept me going ,was the reward of booze at the end of each day.my then wife,zelous judgemental pioneer, you know the type,not only droned on about my drinking, but about everyones drinking, a real barrel of laughs not.
anyway, one year we went to another dc, in newcastle, all seemed to be going well, until lunch.we went over to a hotel for lunch,i ordered my fresh orange and food, a few minutes later, the local jw,s arrived for lunch, they had all pr-ordered drinks,alcoholic drinks, and not one drink but many !!!
they were buisy getting boozed up for the afternoon session,way to go, i was about to join them, when my wife told me " dont even think about it ", anyway she was outraged, but there they were ,with thier little convention badges, men and women, young and old, getting merry, they dont even do that here in scotland, !!!.
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Wow......you guys would have been great to be around at those Conventions!! If I would have a drink there, I would have a Grey Goose and Red Bull or some Energy/Alcoholic beverages like a Sparks or Four Locos. Have one of them and your really buzzed but fully "aware" of the program.
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Parallels to The Borg in movies?
by fade_away inhope y'all don't mind if i ghost write this post for my husband.... i recently let my friend borrow my copy of the movie "the island".
for those who haven't seen it, the plot takes place in a futuristic setting in los angeles where science has perfected human cloning.
the latest rage in medicine is to have a clone made and maintained for you should you ever need it for organ transplants.
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They've been mention but I think these movies had the biggest Parallels to me. The Village, Equilibrium, Matrix, and believe it or not Blade(the first one). All these movies have in common is a central controlling force, whether its the supernatural or by Human means, and there is a individual or group of individuals that are defying the authority. They all start off with the protaganist being manipulated and decieved to believe in a world that doesn't really exist. Once the "real Truth" is revealed to them, they start to rebel and make a stand.