It's a part of American society. The country was built on violence and oppression. Americans look to superstar celebrities and envision their life through theirs. Social media has helped drive this even more. It helps build these people up, get followers, and bring them down when accusations arise. People are FOLLOWERS here. You can look good, sound good, or just have a product people like and they will follow you to the edge of a cliff. It's America. However, we can't say that other countries don't have these problems. Many of America's more popular entertainers receive a lot of love from foreign fans and entities.
whathehadas
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Why do people support abusers in the NFL?
by Simon ini really don't get it.. in most sports in most countries your career is rightly over if you commit certain crimes.. but not in the good old nfl !.
it seems players can rape, beat women, abuse children, fight dogs ... and they will not only be allowed to play but they will have an army of fans wearing their names on their shirts and cheering them on.. the abuse and arrogant attitudes seem to exist at all levels - it seems like there is an endless feed of news stories where some high-school or college football players have abused or raped girls and they end up being allowed back to play and people rallying round as though *they* are the victims.. surely, whatever someone's skills as an athlete are, there are some things that simply can't be excused?.
or is winning truly 'everything' and it doesn't matter the cost?.
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Why do people support abusers in the NFL?
by Simon ini really don't get it.. in most sports in most countries your career is rightly over if you commit certain crimes.. but not in the good old nfl !.
it seems players can rape, beat women, abuse children, fight dogs ... and they will not only be allowed to play but they will have an army of fans wearing their names on their shirts and cheering them on.. the abuse and arrogant attitudes seem to exist at all levels - it seems like there is an endless feed of news stories where some high-school or college football players have abused or raped girls and they end up being allowed back to play and people rallying round as though *they* are the victims.. surely, whatever someone's skills as an athlete are, there are some things that simply can't be excused?.
or is winning truly 'everything' and it doesn't matter the cost?.
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whathehadas
It's been a problem in the NFL for a long time. The art or sport imitates life. Really though, it's a society issue, because these players don't just pop up in the NFL. They come from bad backgrounds and slide through the educational system. The numbers of domestic violence may seem high compared to outside the league, but it's a law of averages.
You have 53 players on 32 teams which adds up to 1,696. Add up to 8 players that can be on each teams practice squad and you end up with over 1,800 players in the NFL. If you have just 3% of those players get into some case of domestic violence, that's 54 players. That may seem like a lot but the total number of players are a small fraction of society. Whatevers the case, these problems are not going away. The league can let the bad players that are convicted of crimes go and these people will be part of regular society. They will not be public figures anymore, will bring their problems and possibly create more crimes.
Really looking at it though, the NFL doesn't guarantee contracts and ANY player can be released at ANY time. It can be for performance or in the current situations, conduct issues. These careers are extremely finite. IMHO, the bad players eventually get weeded out of the league. Their criminal record catches up with them or their team just loses patience with their conduct.
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DO YOU EVER THINK ABOUT the things people believe about JESUS?
by Terry indo you ever "think about" the things you just take for granted about the story of jesus?.
there are things about christianity which should make honest thinkers scratch their head in wonder.. **.
when beloved (or hated) public figures are murdered (or executed), some rather large waves of reaction ensue.. there are two kinds of outcry both speculative and descriptive.
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The ever insightful Terry. Thank you
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Debunking the Bible
by Coded Logic inthere seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.
anyone know any simple arguements for this?
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That's it......
by whathehadas inthis might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
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whathehadas
I take “normal” as being a average person with every day problems. I do know that there are crazy people out here. Some even crazier than the witnesses. I do think that with making friends after having a past in the Borg. You should be open and honest about it. I don't have to tell them everything but letting them know a little of the background can make me more comfortable in future situations around them. I think it's hard to ignore it after recently leaving. That's my whole issue right now. The JW have made me what I am today.
@problemaddict I'm in the U.S, in California
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That's it......
by whathehadas inthis might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
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whathehadas
I appreciate all the advice and kind words. I've been really depressed these last few months. I have thought about suicide off and on. The death of Robin Williams has really kept that on my mind. Gladly, I'm too scared to end my life and I do want to see what another day will bring. I would hate for the JW to think that I couldn't take being away from the WT. That's why I will continue to fight on with my struggles. It would be nice to talk to some of you and hear your voice. Someone on here that lives near me, had DM their number to talk. I never called them and it's been a little over a year ago. Shame on me. I try to make friends but it would be easier to get to know ones that have had similar experiences to mine.
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That's it......
by whathehadas inthis might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
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whathehadas
Most people do find me likeable as a nice guy. I just find it hard to connect to other people because of the lack of "real world" experiences. I'll take some forms of therapy into consideration.
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That's it......
by whathehadas inthis might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
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whathehadas
@finally awake ugh I probably do. It might make me feel more weirder than I already do. That's the thing that makes me uncomfortable about that
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That's it......
by whathehadas inthis might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
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whathehadas
This might be my last post. I don't really know though. I've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in God. I've tried to move on from the JW past but that's really being foolish. 26yrs of my life from birth inside a cult. That can't be erased unfortunately. Many on here have been in that thing longer than me and have a hard time moving on. I've tried to be a normal guy and make friends with normal people. Part of that is true but I'm not normal. I've realized that and I'm facing that reality. I'm trying to heal. Maybe I need some therapy but I don't have the time or energy to deal with that. I barely feel like writing this shit. Funny, I look at my friends and co-workers and I envy their "normal" lives. Even though they have problems of their own. It's hard for them to relate to feeling like a Ex-Jw, because I've told them about the life and they're shocked by the ridiculous beliefs. This is the shit that gets to me with making new friends that are not Ex-Jw. I would really like to be normal and blend in the crowd, so to speak, but I can't do it with the black cloud of my past over my head. I burn with anger......sometimes over that damn religion. I don't think about my experience in it all the time but thinking of how other people have had their lives damaged by that religion. I try to socialize with some of the friends I've made but this JW shit keeps coming up. It's the past that can't stay away! I CAN'T be normal....when I've haven't had any normal experiences for most of my life. I don't know folks. This recovery is harder than I thought.
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What was YOUR First Worldly Experience?
by Yondaime inwhile i was in florida during the spring visiting my oldest sister.
i had the time of my life with my brother in law.. you see my sister married a non-believer and my parents viewed him as the scum of the earth, so i was terrified to ever talk to him.
turns out he's one of the coolest people i have ever met.
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whathehadas
Always had them when I was around my older brothers who left the Borg in their early years. It felt good to have some freedom while being around them. That is looking at R rated movies and talking about politics and dirty jokes. Felt guilty afterwards though, when I went back around the JWs.