all that i can say is....what a shame!
I don't know HOW you can say that being a JW wasn't a waste of time? It WASN'T the Truth, so all the energy, time and money were futile in it. The things learn in it that is redeemable now on the outside, could have been learned without being in a cult. I personally didn't have a horrific experience like some in it but the time in it could have been used for gaining experience in REAL relationships and education. Pisses me the F@#$ off thinking about that time lost!
what was that blessing part about?
i kept hearing pioneers talking about the blessings that they were receiving and as i looked at their lives objectively, there really isn't anything special about them.
maybe they are just more appreciative of things than other people.
@FayeDunaway they're probably relieved that they don't have to pay you back unless......you take them to small claims court, since you're no longer their "Brother/Sister".
I remember always being "encouraged" by the pioneers in my Congo to join them in the work. I would look at their beater car, a minimal job, all the hours spent in field circus, and I would say to myself. ...Hell No! What made it worse was when I did spend time with them as a auxiliary pioneer, I would see how MUCH they would gossip about everyone in the hall. What a bunch of judgemental, pious, egotistical, brown-nosing, back-biting, cheap wad, $##t head Mutha&#*@$#!!!
hey so i'm new on here.
just wanted to introduce myself.
in my 20's and was rasied one, and very popular among the jw community.
Hey Tony, welcome to the forum.
I don't know why you are still going to Hall after you've learned the Real truth? Especially now that you're d'fed, there's no point in trying to front for a extended period of time to get the "friends" back. It's better to cut the ties now and live a honest life. It's your decision though.
i didn't know that this r&b artist from the mid 90's, case, was raised a jw.
one of the host (charlamagne tha god) on this radio show was raised one also.
go to the 18:50 mark where it's brought up.
i didn't know that this r&b artist from the mid 90's, case, was raised a jw.
one of the host (charlamagne tha god) on this radio show was raised one also.
go to the 18:50 mark where it's brought up.
its easy to look around and say if a singular all powerful were real he would stop the suffering of man and animal, a position i support.
however there is another even more basic premise i have pondered at times as well (im sure im not the first of course) : would any loving parent ever hide from their children?
consider it... our all knowing all loving father hides from us even though we cry out to know him.
The all-important question revolves around Satan questioning Jehovah's right to rule the universe and the rightfulness of his rule. Nevermind how many billions of lives of his human creatures are expended and countless suffering mankind is put through so that "Jehovah's good name" is restored.
@EdenOne even that doctrine is screwed up with the JW because they believe "Jehovah's" name is not known to many. How can his "good name" be restored when people don't even know his name? BS for the JW and their billions of hours in wasted time
its easy to look around and say if a singular all powerful were real he would stop the suffering of man and animal, a position i support.
however there is another even more basic premise i have pondered at times as well (im sure im not the first of course) : would any loving parent ever hide from their children?
consider it... our all knowing all loving father hides from us even though we cry out to know him.
i didn't know that this r&b artist from the mid 90's, case, was raised a jw.
one of the host (charlamagne tha god) on this radio show was raised one also.
go to the 18:50 mark where it's brought up.
does anybody know if ray franz ever addressed his thoughts on atheism?
from what i've read, he was a diligent reader of the bible.
if anybody has any info and sources about this, it is highly appreciated.
@PokerplayerPhil Randy Watters/Dogpatch. On point with what Ray talked about in that last chapter. Speaking of Randy, when I awakened and read both those books. I wanted to read more from Ray but I was subconsciously trying to follow him/his beliefs instead of finding my own path and using the new freedom I had. I tried to ask Randy if he had the other book Ray wrote or co-wrote and Randy told me straight up that Ray is NOT a theologian. So I needed to stop trying to buy into his interpretation of the bible since Ray really was limited in real theology outside the WT. Was a hard pill to swallow at the time but true
does anybody know if ray franz ever addressed his thoughts on atheism?
from what i've read, he was a diligent reader of the bible.
if anybody has any info and sources about this, it is highly appreciated.
