i made this post in mulan's thread, yet want to make it a topic:.
"how does brown sleep at night?".
better question...what do his dreams and nightmares consist of??.
How do they sleep at night?
Well, all but the youngest 5 sleep with a belly full of Ensure and the help of a respirator.
And the youngest 5 sleep on their sides or backs so as not to stimulate the genitalia.
And good ol' Patrick LaFranca takes a Viagra just to whack off.
a major news publication is interested in my article on jw's and sexual abuse.
i need to document some sources for them.
in order to do this as quickly as possible, i am posting what i need sources for here.. the first thing i need a source to back up is this statement:.
These are even better:
...occasionally a Witness on his own initiative will decide to leave the [Watchtower organization]. ... They then will adhere to the inspired injunction 'not to receive such a one into their homes or say a greeting to him so as not to become sharers in his wicked works.' --The Watchtower, July 1, 1984, page 31.
Persons who make themselves 'not of our sort' by deliberately rejecting the faith and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses should appropriately be viewed and treated as are those who have been disfellowshiped for wrongdoing. --The Watchtower, September 15, 1981, page 23.
...Korah, Dathan and Abiram rebelled. ... What would the children and households of Korah, Dathan and Abiram do? Would they put loyalty to family ahead of loyalty to Jehovah and his congregation? Most of those closely related to the rebels put family before God. Jehovah executed these relatives along with the rebels. ... Great care needs to be exercised that a person’s situation as a disfellowshiped sinner is neither overlooked nor minimized. As the sons of Korah well demonstrated, our chief loyalty must be to Jehovah and his theocratic arrangement. --The Watchtower, September 15, 1981, page 26-30.
It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum... Anyone who is feeling the sadness and pain that the disfellowshipped relative has thus caused may find comfort and be encouraged by the example set by some of Korah's relatives. --The Watchtower, April 15, 1988, page 26.
a major news publication is interested in my article on jw's and sexual abuse.
i need to document some sources for them.
in order to do this as quickly as possible, i am posting what i need sources for here.. the first thing i need a source to back up is this statement:.
Here's what I could find quickly online:
An article titled "Search Through Me, O God" appeared in the October 1, 1993 Watchtower. Speaking about "apostates" on page 19, beginning with paragraph 15, we read:
Regarding them, the psalmist said: "Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become tome real enemies." (Psalm 139:21, 22) It was because they intensely hated Jehovah that David looked on them with abhorrence. Apostates are included among those who show their hatred of Jehovah by revolting against him. Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. Some apostates profess to know and serve God, but they reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah's organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah's feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they "feel a loathing" toward those who have made themselves God's enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance.--Job 13:16; Romans
12:19; 2 John 9, 10.
An article in The Watchtower, September 15, 1981, on page 29 under the
heading "DISFELLOWSHIPPED RELATIVES NOT LIVING AT HOME" has this to say:
The second situation that we need to consider is that involving a disfellowshipped or disassociated relative who is not in the immediate family circle or living at one's home. Such a person is still related by blood or marriage, and so there may be some limited need to care for necessary family matters. Nonetheless, it is not as if he were living in the same home where contact and conversation could not be avoided. We should keep clearly in mind the Bible's inspired direction: "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person . . . not even eating with such a man."--1 Corinthians.
5:11.
See also the reference to this article on page 20 of The Watchtower November 15, 1988.
the sunday after i wrote my da letter, i visited a local lutheran church.
i enjoyed the service, it was very beautiful, and i have been back several times.. after the service, a woman came up and started talking to me.
we ended up chatting for about 1 1/2 hours.
Dan, very kewl about your new best friend!
I have a friend at work who is modern Lutheran...good guy.
Please keep us posted on meeting up with you and other ex's in Columbus some time...
Later for now,
Charlie
, http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2002/05/08/ke050802s203205.htm.
jehovah's witnesses act against abuse-policy critics .
by peter smith .
FYI
This has already been broadcast to all employees of Kentucky Cabinet for Families and Children, numbering THOUSANDS across the Commonwealth, by their office of communications.
Shame on the filthy, lying, deceitful, absolutely disgusting braindead drones at Bethel.... It really is the Borg.
i am an ex-jw who lives in providence ri.
i have only been here since january, and am looking forward to meeting some other ex's in the area.
i have been in contact with a few others already, and we are talking about the possibility of an informal get-together around memorial day week.
Hey, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl!
I hope you all have fun. Believe me, it'll be great if you just have a few...lots to talk about.
We had a few new faces at the recent potluck in Cincinnati, and it was really hard to take it all in just in one evening!
We're all talking and healing, and 'mother' doesn't like that...WAAAAAHHH!
i have been walking around with a sticker on my chest that announces to the world that i acted on my civic responsibility and voted today.
i have to admit that i am feeling a bit vulnerable and fighting the impulse to rip it off.
there were two issues on the ballot however that i felt it important to support.
Hey, grrrrrrrrrrrrl!
Feels good, doesn't it. I love to vote!
Sheesh, and just to think...we weren't 'allowed' to vote for class president or the homecoming queen!
Well, enough of us that are neither DF'd or DA'd are going about our business detached from the borg that maybe they'll realize they are no longer relevant?? Ha!
Now they'll probably start kicking everybody out that doesn't want to play by their ever-changing rules anymore....WAAAAHHHH!! (Bottom lip jutting out 4 inches)
Miss Becky, big brother has your number now....oooh....scared?
the june 1, 2002 wt has an interesting discussion of whether genetics and our biology have any influence on "alcoholism, homosexuality, promiscuity, violence, other aberrant behavior and..." .
their conclusion?
essentially, they say no.
btw--they did at one time say blacks would be white in Paradise, and that the Jews would be restored to Zion, then the Jews were restored to Zion, and they changed both teachings, which leads us to.....it's all BS.
Besides that, the current ragazines are not being written by the shriveled up old men on ventilators hidden away behind the magical curtain at Patterson. They're written by a younger crop of dapper young closet cases headed up by the like of Patrick LaFranca!
It's kinda like when I decided not to eat meat for a while, and I made up a detailed story in my own mind that it was doctor's orders and I didn't really like meat anyway...
They're trying to keep jehover happy whilst they sneak around the showers and use up all the sisters' hand cream, nothing more.
make up a word for how you felt saturday afternoons at 3:42 during district assemblies.
mine is.
aggsniffilated.
Totalmente blablableado!
what would happen if, one by one, each jehovah's witness started standing up for him/herself and what s/he personally stands for?.
a couple of examples: .
a friend of mine, an elder in a rural northern kentucky congregation, stepped down from his position a couple of years ago, and when confronted by the elders, he basically told them in no uncertain terms to 'leave him and his family alone.
Yes, I agree that the ideal situation would be 'death to the Borg!'
But right now, it exists. And I personally feel that except for a few particularly nasty items, it's just like all other organized religions. I could care less what any of them teach--people just go there for the sense of community.
But the power and judgment, the fear and self-deprecation, the shunning, the worthless literature, the ridiculous counting of time, the lack of charity.... These things must go. Oh yeah, and the allegiance to the mythological 'f&ds'....sheesh!
"Kein Mensch muss mussen."
