i'll keep it short.. you're no doubt aware of the 'if the gb say something that seems odd, just go along with it' thing.
and the 'do as the gb tell you!
dont doubt the gb!
I'll keep it short.
You're no doubt aware of the 'If the GB say something that seems odd, just go along with it' thing
And the 'DO AS THE GB TELL YOU! DONT DOUBT THE GB!' thing
that they've been hardcore drumming for about the last decade...
I think it's in preparation to tell the R n F to start preaching 'Times Up Armageddon Is Here'
I might be wrong, but i dont think i am..
Watcha think?
i wanted to call this thread 'share and share alike' but i didnt want to detract from the subject matter.... .
i read a post here yesterday about the watchtower rand shares, and decided to go on a little factfinding hunt myself... .
i couldn't find anything up to date regarding the rand shares, but about half an hour ago i found a post elsewhere talking about the .
sorry for the double post but i dont know how to edit my posts..
edit, i figured it out but i dont know how to delete double posts. :?
i wanted to call this thread 'share and share alike' but i didnt want to detract from the subject matter.... .
i read a post here yesterday about the watchtower rand shares, and decided to go on a little factfinding hunt myself... .
i couldn't find anything up to date regarding the rand shares, but about half an hour ago i found a post elsewhere talking about the .
i just read a post on another site about this.
they said
"it looks like ms riley set up a trust fund to benefit the wtbts in 1948. the proceeds from that trust go to the wtbts but the trustee is comercia bank. i dont know if the wtbts has administrative control over the investments. it may be the bank handles all the investments and sends a check to the wtbts each year and all the society does is cash the check and couldnt change where the money was invested even if they wanted to.
i expect the above is the case, if the society had the choice between getting a small but ongoing payment or taking a substantial lump sum which they could then put to use as they desired, they would take the whole thing. ms riley set the trust up and it continues to operate to this day under her conditions not the society's. "
ok i think i get it, if correct
the shares of phillip morris / altria group (Tobacco company) have gone from the list tho.
as they were on the list back in 2002, in fact looking through them again there have been alot of changes..
could the society not request that they do not recieve funds from organizations against their moral code?
or does that make this all ok now?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/54708/1/The-Watchtower-the-cigarette-company
i wanted to call this thread 'share and share alike' but i didnt want to detract from the subject matter.... .
i read a post here yesterday about the watchtower rand shares, and decided to go on a little factfinding hunt myself... .
i couldn't find anything up to date regarding the rand shares, but about half an hour ago i found a post elsewhere talking about the .
Sorry to double post, but i just had a brief look at RAYTHEON COMPANY heres a link
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/technology/rtn10_dighunter/
If you look at the picture very closely you can see smoke coming from that gun
i wanted to call this thread 'share and share alike' but i didnt want to detract from the subject matter.... .
i read a post here yesterday about the watchtower rand shares, and decided to go on a little factfinding hunt myself... .
i couldn't find anything up to date regarding the rand shares, but about half an hour ago i found a post elsewhere talking about the .
I wanted to call this thread 'share and share alike' but I didnt want to detract from the subject matter...
I read a post here yesterday about the Watchtower RAND shares, and decided to go on a little factfinding hunt myself..
I couldn't find anything up to date regarding the RAND shares, but about half an hour ago i found a post elsewhere talking about the
Watchtowers shares that were also a charitable gift via HENRIETTA M RILEY TRUST so i branched off my search briefly and found
this.
I listed names of companies in my post for ease of reading to those who may wish to follow the rabbit hole deeper and find out what
each of these companies deal in. As I dont recognize all of them, and you can have some fun putting a corporate face to each name.
I'm absolutely no expert at all on what any of the figures or other details mean, but I'm fairly certain someone here will understand the
jargon.
this link provides pdf files for the years 2003 - 2010
http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/PubApps/showVals.php?ft=bmf&ein=386043103
and this link is for the most recent pdf
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/386/386043103/386043103_201004_990.pdf
By all means save a file or two to your computer because whole web pages can easily be misplaced
Follow the money
Page 21 on... A list of some of the shares the watchtower bible and tract society profit from, year ending 04/30/2010
AGCO CORP
AGL RESOURCES
AT&T INC
AUTOMATIC DATA PROCESSING INC
BARCLAYS BK PLC
BROADCOM CORP
CHESAPEAKE ENERGY CORP
COCA-COLA CO DELAWARE
CONOCOPHILLIPS COW
CUMMINS ENGINE INC
DREAMWORKS ANIMATION SKG
DUN & BRADSTREET CORP
EBAY INC
ELECTRONIC ARTS
FEDERATED INVESTORS INC
FLUOR CORP
GAMESTOP CORP
GENERAL MILLS INC
GILEAD SCIENCES INC
GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP INC
IBM CORP
INTERNATIONAL LEASE FIN CORP
INTUIT INC
ISHARES MSCI EMERGING MKT INDEX
ISHARES MSCI EAFE INDEX FD
ISHARES TR-S&P SMALL CAP
ISHARES S & P SMALL CAP
JOHNSON & JOHNSON
KROGER CO
L-3 COMMUNICATIONS HLDGS INC
LABORATORY CORP OF AMER HLDGS
MCAFEE INC
MCDONALDS CORP
MIDCAP SPDR
MONSANTO CO
MYLAN LABS INC
NYSE EURONEXT
NETAPP INC
NICOR INC
NIKE INC CL B
OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM CORP
ORACLE CORPORATION
PENNEY J C INC
PROCTER & GAMBLE CO
RAYTHEON COMPANY
SCHLUMBERGER LTD
SEACOR HOLDINGS INC
SOUTHERN CO
STRYKER CORP
3M CO
TRAVELERS COS INC
US BANCORP
WAL-MART STORES INC
WATERS CORP
XTO ENERGY INC
CHECK POINT SOFTWARE TECH
i have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
[quote]
Have Jws ever tried to push UN aims or goals
[/quote]
Perhaps you should take a look at what is required in order to become an NGO with the Department of Public Information [DPI].
In short, my answer is yes, I believe they have tried to push UN aims or goals.
Simply because this was a requirement of the association with the UN. Apparently part of that requirement was to provide proof of disseminating UN propaganda on a regular basis.
i have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
@ Black Sheep
Alot of people would not be perusing sites like these if it were not for those "Socks full of bubbles"
@ Scott77
If this turns out to be meaningful and a good thing then give God the credit,
then again if not blame the bloke who posted it on the other site :P (jk)
I just copied and pasted.
I do appreciate the sentiment though.
peace
i have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
I cant take the credit for this, I'm just the messenger.
I originally found the info here...
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http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=10&t=853
Posted by: Peter Nov 25 2007, 05:13 PM...
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I phoned London Bethel Regarding the first OSCE conference and i was initially lied to.
I recorded the conversation, and told the 'brother' I spoke to that I had recorded our conversation, But not before I had been lied to.
I still have the recording.
I also tried To contact the journalist who wrote the original story covering the U.N. affiliation, his secretary gave me his mobile number and I phoned him.
He was on holiday and said he would get back in touch with me but he never did, so i left the matter alone.
I was told that it was not unusual for them to become an NGO for the day in order to sit in on these meetings.
He also denied knowledge of Mr Marc Hansen, to which i responded that he might want to check the matter out, because if Mr Hansen wasn't a bethel member then someone must be parading as one under false pretences.
I believe it was then that he asked me 'What's wrong with being an NGO?'
I also recieved a letter regarding our conversation.
When i saw this post my heart started pounding...
I thought this was also common knowledge... Obviously not.
So I broke silence.
Edit... I often think 2Thess 2: is talking about people like them.
i have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
Scroll down to September 26, 2007, Room #2, from 13:00-15:00 hours.
http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2007/07/25609_en.pdf
i have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2007/09/26586_en.pdf
it is an osce document.
if you scroll quite a way down the page to page 44 you will begin upon the list of ngo's.
i'd like to draw your attention the numbers 10, 93, 94, 243, and 328. you will see that different arms of the Watchtower bible and tract society have still been acting as ngo's even as late as 2007.
