Posts by chapstick

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How much water is on planet earth?

by ThomasCovenant in

the watchtower, as i recall, get over the noah's flood story as regards saying the waters covered the mountains by saying that the mountains weren't .

as high pre flood as after.

the water didn't have to be 30,000 feet deep.. but supposing the highest bit of land was just 100 meters tall.

chapstick

According to the UGS there are 325 million trillion gallons of water on the planet. This includes the oceans, lakes rivers, aquafers, moisture in living creatures and plants, and the atmosphere, where nearly 1/2 half of it resides...

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WHAT IS TRUTH?

by DATA-DOG in

how many of you have listened to this talk from the dc?

how many of you actually yelled at your computer, " wth!!!!!

that's what i have been saying you ignorant buffoons!!!

chapstick

Thanks Shirley. My dyslexia is rearing its ugly head

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WHAT IS TRUTH?

by DATA-DOG in

how many of you have listened to this talk from the dc?

how many of you actually yelled at your computer, " wth!!!!!

that's what i have been saying you ignorant buffoons!!!

chapstick

Real truth comes in two forms, objective and subjective. Subjective truth is personal truth. It is real truth to you but not others. For example a woman is married to a fat ugly slob who everyone else detests to be around. They hate him. She loves him and really thinks he's the most hansome man in the world. Truth to her isn't truth to everyone else. Subjective truth is truth that can be researched, stands for itself on its own merits and is accepted by most everyone. Subjective truth is provable truth. Objective truth is unprovable to anyone but the individual who believes it. The group of blind men evaluating an elephant from different vantage points is a good example...

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Jesus: The latest Myth in the history of Sun-God Myths

by VivaVegas in

i wanted to share with you all information that you may find helpful in your quest for real truth as it pertains to god and religion.

"jesus" is just the latest sun-god in mankind's long history of sun-gods.

a belief-system which in itself stems from mankinds first true religion, worship of the sun and stars.

chapstick

A man named Yeshua ben Yoseph was crucified around the year 30 AD by the Romans for throwing the money changers out of the the temple. From what little actual history we have he was an intelligent, wise and caring man who detested the treatment of his fellow man by the ruling authorities and religious despots of the day, especially the ultra religious Jews. The story was later twisted by the Roman church and included in the current Bible. Was he GOD? EVERYTHING in existence is a part of GOD or the source. He was indeed the son of GOD, just as we all are sons and daughters of GOD. He has been depicted as still hanging on that cross for over 2000 years. It seems to me that it's time people realized that one man can never absolve or carry all of the sins of the world on his shoulders. He has been used as a scapegoat for every conceivabe atrocity throughout history, including our own individual failings. He never requested or demanded that a religion be set up in his name. I do believe in an afterlife. That said I feel that the spirit of that man Yeshua has probably had more than enough of seeing himself depicted still hanging on that cross and being expected to save everyone on this planet. It is a sick and twisted custom and turns the memory of that man and the excruciating torture he went through despicable. In actuality Jesus = Jes-us or Jesus is US. There are lots of secrets hidden in the English lanquage, messages intentionally put there by early historians who hinted at the truth. Here's a couple of examples. Israel = Is Ra El? Ra = Egyption Sun God. El is semetic for deity or God; originally applied to Saturn. So the question> is the Egyption sun god Ra really God? Break apart almost any english word with EL at the beginning or end and it points out a simple message or idea about deity. Elite, Elder, Elevator.

I have a brother in-law whos last name is Elrod. Elrod = El Rod or God Rod

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I have a BIG decision to make.......

by pandora in

sorry for the previous post..... i fat fingered and can't figure out how to delete it.... .

i want a tattoo, but i want it to make a statement.

and that statement is that i think the jw's are a cult and bad in all ways.

chapstick

I don't have a picture of it but I saw one several months ago that fits the bill. It was a Celtic cross with a snake curled around it. Under the cross were the words 'Don't Cross Me'

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Do You TRUST The Police, The Government, People In General?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think most people lie.

some more than others.. we are taught, as children to trust the police, the authorities, our teachers, the clergy, our doctors, etc.. do you easily trust and believe in people?.

i don't, but i do try to look at the good in people..

chapstick

The world is a business, pure and simple. It's ALL about the accumilation of power by means of the crooked monetary system It is controlled by a very small group of waelthy bankers and financerers who report to a very wealthy elitist oligarchy. This oligarchy numbers around one to two thousand individuals and they themselves have a very few of their own members who actully make the major decisions. Examples are the British queen, heavy weight Zionists like Henry Kissinger and Richard Pearl as well as UN leaders like Maurice Strong. It is nothing but a world wide ponzi scheme that has operated for centuries and really come into its own during the last 100 years. It's run by a world wide mafia of Royal familys, polititions and men in business suits with big smiles on their faces with a continual stream of lies eminating from their mouths. Their ultimate goal is 1: The accumilation of as much or all of the worlds wealth as possible. 2: A rigid, centralised control system (controlled by them) over the entire planet. 3: The elimination of 80% of the worlds population through war, geneticly engineered food, poison in our drinking water (flouride etc.), heavy metals sprayed from the air, contaminated vaccinations, encouraging genocide by inflaming religious differences and starvation by means of collapsing the world economy. The population agenda and centralized world control are actually admitted publicly by them. For example look up the British royal family position on world population and they admit to wanting an 80% reduction in human population within one to two generations. This cannot be accomplished naturally, it will take genocide. They've done it in the past through colonialism but now they have the technical means and enough ignorant mercinaries and followers to to carry it out. Nazism didn't die, it just put on a new face...

Trust Me

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Using the word Father far more intimate than saying Jehovah?

by BU2B in

jw
friends

this was one of the things i thought about while i was beginning to think for myself.. who has the more intimate relationship, the coworker of a man who calls him by his first name, or his child who calls him dad, or papa?.

all the emphasis jws put on jehovah blinds them to this simple truth.

what if one of us walked up to our father and said, hey bill!

chapstick

Since the borg are so concerned with using a personal name for GOD not only personally but publicly why there is no effort in pronouncing it as it was originally? It's like the name "Jesus". His name was actually Yeshua ben Yoseph. A closer pronunciation of the tetragramaton would be Yahava. I rarely if ever use or used the name Jehovah even when I was in the borg. This wasn't out of any disrespect for GOD but embarrassment due to its association with the borg. I used GOD, Father or Creator (Papa during personal prayer) and was actually counciled about it. I suppose that the WT leadership feels that we really aren't children of GOD and have no right to have intimate conversations with Him/Her...

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Why we have Conspiracy Theorists......

by cantleave in

everyone knows a conspiracy theorist (let's face it we have a few on this board).

my attention has been to drawn to an article in the new york times, which i have pasted below.

apparently people with propensity to create conspiracy theory narratives are quite sane, even though they may have low self worth and cannot fully ascertain their place in the world.

chapstick

Every political speech, every history lesson and every description of current events that we see and hear on mainstreet media are fundamental lies. It's not just details that are changed or conveniently left out it's the fundamental lie that we (in the US and the west) are free, have control over our governments and that government is there to serve us. What they don't tell you is that everything in society is built around the ultra rich via the current banking and monetary system are sucking the life blood out of the middle class, devistating the poor, laying waste to the planet and using religion and mass marketing to underscore their project to rule and dominate the planet. Most of the leadership in government is either in the tank with the would be elitest "rulers" of the world, who are basicly psychopaths, or are psychopaths themselves. When anyone reading this thread allows themselves to see the truth of just the 9/11 attacks they will then begin to see the bigger picture of tyranny on a global scale. It's not a bunch of conspiracies, it's one global conspiracy perpitrated by wealthy would-be leaders of the future global government Any sane person with the patience to watch "9/11; In Plane Site" cannot deny the complicity of our own government in the attacks. Most will just shrug it off, not take time to watch it and continue with the lie; which is exactly what they want you to do. The truth is there in plain site for anyone to see yet most will deny it to the end. It's more popular to laugh at the conspiracy than to really investigate it. Denial is a common human trait when the apple cart of their long held beliefs are challenged; kind of like a typical JW who stands up for their version of truth to the very end.

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