There is NOTHING that would make me go back. The mental abuse is enough for me to steer clear. Leaving was the BEST thing that I ever did.
vikesgirl101
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What would it take for YOU to come back?
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Losing my religion
by vikesgirl101 inhowdy!
i have been out of the jw's for about five years now.
it has been about four years since i've posted.
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vikesgirl101
Howdy! I have been out of the JW's for about five years now. It has been about four years since I've posted. I have been a Christian even though I left the religion...Or so I've thought. We had found a great Country church we'd attend off and on for the last four years. But then the Pastor left and the congregation turned on eachother. It was eye opening. I've tried other churches, and I just don't feel a "fit" in any of them. I sometimes wonder if the JW's have soured me on religion. I see so mych hypocrisy in organized Religion. I am frustrated with the masses of people that feel that their church is the only life source. Or worse yet, they think only Christians are good people. They think their people can sin because they're holier than everyone else.
So has anybody else had this problem? I mean it seriously makes me HATE organized religion!
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JW's view of suidice
by highdose inbefore i was severed from the borg, i noticed that they did seem to change their minds about suidice not being worthy of a resserrection.. mind you it was very very vague in an article... and everyone was saying " do they mean this?
" or "do they mean that?".
is anyone aware of the current stance?.
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vikesgirl101
purps: That is the way it was explained to me too. It sounds like your brother's death was within the last ten years, huh? My condolences.
I attempted to take my life almost two years ago. I almost got away with it. I was in the hospital for 10 days. Anyways, it prompted me to do alot of research as to the JW and GB beliefs. I was appalled at the 1970's articles that pretty much told you that such a person was a murderer. It was like no one understood me. I was taking my own life because I was sure that Jehovah wanted me gone, because I was such a huge failure to him. Years later they understood it as an illness, which I was glad to see. It made me wonder if they changed their views because someone close to them committed suicide. I hate to speculate there.
But what I did learn is that someone who does commit suicide cannot have the funeral in the KH. That tells me that they still have mixed feelings on the issue. I asked who would have handled my funeral, and my Dad said it would be an elder, but had to be outside the KH. Not too comforting. It just validated the wicked feeling that I carried of myself.
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Womenly subjection
by vikesgirl101 indoes anybody remember which scripture it is in the greek scriptures (i want to say it was of paul's writings) that the jw's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation?
i remember doing research on it for a return visit.
basically the jist of it is that because of eve's sin, all women are inferior.
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vikesgirl101
meangirl, thanks for putting some logic to all of this. Actually everybody here seems to be on the same page on this subject. Being raised a JW, and never allowed to question some doctines (more so by my Dad than the religion itself) I am trying to put some pieces together. This issue really bugs me to no end. I kept my boyfriend up half a night complaining about this vicious scriptual circle. Although he is religious, he just doesn't care. He could roll over and go to sleep, and not think about it. Me?? I so need professional help. I am questioning if I am justifying my feelings on this without proper reason.
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Womenly subjection
by vikesgirl101 indoes anybody remember which scripture it is in the greek scriptures (i want to say it was of paul's writings) that the jw's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation?
i remember doing research on it for a return visit.
basically the jist of it is that because of eve's sin, all women are inferior.
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vikesgirl101
Avishai: Very profound! I think I love you!! LOL
Anyways, I had an awful time with this last night. I mean, can we pick and choose which parts of the Bible we like?? I have a problem with this. Was it Paul that said the women are a large army? Maybe not. Who said God is not partial? Maybe it was towards men.
Anyways, Paul is not my favorite Bible writer anymore. He basically said women are there to make babies.
Can I say I am still a Christian if I disagree with Paul's writings?
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At the grocery store
by beksbks inso i just went to the store, and got a few items.
salmon steak, artichokes, potatoes, grapes, peaches, and goat cheese.
the lady behind me (who was on one of those hoverounds) asked me what the little package was, i told her goat cheese.
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vikesgirl101
OMG, I think you should have opened up her purse, and gone through it.
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Womenly subjection
by vikesgirl101 indoes anybody remember which scripture it is in the greek scriptures (i want to say it was of paul's writings) that the jw's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation?
i remember doing research on it for a return visit.
basically the jist of it is that because of eve's sin, all women are inferior.
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vikesgirl101
I cannot spell today. Sorry.
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Womenly subjection
by vikesgirl101 indoes anybody remember which scripture it is in the greek scriptures (i want to say it was of paul's writings) that the jw's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation?
i remember doing research on it for a return visit.
basically the jist of it is that because of eve's sin, all women are inferior.
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vikesgirl101
Jadeen: That is a good point here that you stated on how it appears to be what Paul wants, not what God requires. I guess this whole concept irks me because I had to explain to a body of elders personal things that went on in my house. They could no relate. All that they could do was assume that I was not a proper wife.
I have been to a few churches now, and what strikes me is how women are allowed to have a say. They are allowed to exhort others, conduct theip own Bible study session groups, and teach children. To me that is more in line with the way Timothy's mother and grandmother raised him. But if you were to ask Paul, they were still dirt.
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Womenly subjection
by vikesgirl101 indoes anybody remember which scripture it is in the greek scriptures (i want to say it was of paul's writings) that the jw's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation?
i remember doing research on it for a return visit.
basically the jist of it is that because of eve's sin, all women are inferior.
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vikesgirl101
Does anybody remember which scripture it is in the Greek Scriptures (I want to say it was of Paul's writings) that the JW's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation? I remember doing research on it for a return visit. Basically the jist of it is that because of Eve's sin, all women are inferior. Ringing a bell for anyone?
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Kingdom Ministry ANNOUNCEMENTS September 2009
by RR infor the month of.
november: what does the bible really teach?
if householders already have the book, publishers may offer any 192-page book published prior to 1992. translation: "we have too many old books, help us get rid of them".
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vikesgirl101
UGH!! I could never maintain enough enthusiasm in the books to finish reading it myself. I was never a good one to place that crap publication with householders.
And why 192 pages? Did they prattle aimlessly until they filled all 192 pages?? Did all of these books have to fit the criteria of "Must fit into 192 pages?"