i was talking to a baptised friend, and they dont like the idea of me being on here..i told them that ive mentioned it to an elder and that a few know im here,afterall im heeding the warning .
anyway, i explained to them that we are drawn out by our own desire,its whatever is in our heart....... hmmm did that come across ok???
so what im saying is yes negative thoughts or comments whatever we are warned against can harm us but its up to us what we listen to and if our heart is right we shall remain in gods love.
AE not sure if you've answered this before but how long have you been a JW?
You seem to be shocked by quite a few things which makes me think you've not been one for very long. Taking a blood transfusion would be a d'fing offence if the person was unrepentant in taking it as not taking blood is up there with not comitting fornication and the like.
Yes God is understanding and loving but are the elders who sit on judicial comittees?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuajlua93_i&nr=1.
I'm one of the them!
i was talking to a baptised friend, and they dont like the idea of me being on here..i told them that ive mentioned it to an elder and that a few know im here,afterall im heeding the warning .
anyway, i explained to them that we are drawn out by our own desire,its whatever is in our heart....... hmmm did that come across ok???
so what im saying is yes negative thoughts or comments whatever we are warned against can harm us but its up to us what we listen to and if our heart is right we shall remain in gods love.
When I first came on here I hadnt been going to meetings for a while but I still thought that it could be "the truth".
After a few visits and reading the various threads I realised that it was all a con. I wonder how many of us there are that are like that....
i was talking to a baptised friend, and they dont like the idea of me being on here..i told them that ive mentioned it to an elder and that a few know im here,afterall im heeding the warning .
anyway, i explained to them that we are drawn out by our own desire,its whatever is in our heart....... hmmm did that come across ok???
so what im saying is yes negative thoughts or comments whatever we are warned against can harm us but its up to us what we listen to and if our heart is right we shall remain in gods love.
AE although i don't agree with things you say i think you are a genuinely kind and caring person but I am very very surprised that an elder you have spoken to has been ok about you going on here.
Maybe the elder is on here already and he's trying to help you get out.
Mouthy - I think that AE is in England
yesterday, i walked up to the barber shop for a haircut.
that walk takes me by the local hall.
in front of the entrance were two attractive young ladies sitting behind a table loaded with watchtower propoganda.
One of my old congregations used to go to the local car boot sale (if you don't know what that is its kind of like a big garage sale with lots of sellers).
This was the cong that was going to have a stall at the local mela festival then had to pull out when bethel found it - they were told they may give the impression of interfaith.
we rarely go.
but, we went because hubby wanted to tell the elders we are switching halls.. at first, i thought to myself that i would go out back with her when she gets fussy.
but, my baby doesn't really get fussy a lot so i just took her out back and played with her as she laughed hysterically.
I totally wouldnt ever allow it to happen in a congregation im ever in.
AE unless you're one of the elders you wouldn't have any influence! Remember, women are second class citizens in the org.
When I was a child (in the 80s) the children all had to sit still and listen. I have noticed a relaxing of this in recent years though and a child making some noise wouldn't be taken out automatically. However, if it is preventing others from hearing then it is only good manners to take the child out the back.
the watchtower has sent a legal notice to the owners of the eds blog for posting copyrighted material without permission.
here is the link to the trancript.
the site owners response is also there.. .
Was anyone else confused by that website?
It stated at the beginning that it was run by JWs and was "safe" for witlesses but by the end it turned into an anti-JW rant!
Good points made at the end for any witlesses who bother to read the end.
Its been a long day so I may be imagining things tho!
we have friends who say that they have had some awful shepherdings,the things theyve been told in them were far from encouraging.. we havent ever had one so to be honest i cant comment...but would love to know if you had one?
were they regular and were they ever encouraging?
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Angel eyes,
You've never had a sheperding call and still you defend the organisation. Things like that is more often than not what moves someone to leave. I know personally it was the lack of sheperding and caring for the congregation that made me realise the org is a waste of time.
we have friends who say that they have had some awful shepherdings,the things theyve been told in them were far from encouraging.. we havent ever had one so to be honest i cant comment...but would love to know if you had one?
were they regular and were they ever encouraging?
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Sheperding visits? What were they?!?!?!
In the 4 years from being baptised to leaving I got two. One when I'd just joined a new congregation and the second after I had missed loads of meetings (the beginning of the fade but I didn't realise it was that at the time.) Waste of time on both occassions.
Never got them when I lived at home. It appeared that although the elders liked to talk about sheperding the flock, love etc they lived by "do as I say not as I do". I think my family only had one every 10 years or so. It may have been longer.
as a jw i had an elder and 2 kids to feed.
because of the elder we always had to be at the hall early - not an easy thing between homework and dinner.. so meeting nights i had a set schedule of things to cook and serve that were easy to make, eat and clean up after.
my ex is italian so pasta was a staple in our house except on meeting nights - couldn't have red spaghetti sauce splattered on clothes.
Jookbeard, the highlight of a Thursday night was going to the local chip shop for chips and loads of Edinburgh brown sauce.
It made up for having to hang around at the hall as my dad was an elder at the time and always having to deal with things.
