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the RV just became a DNC!!!!

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some of you may remember me posting a few days ago that my shop had become some jw's magazine route.

well today the staff who was supposed to man the shop has called in sick, which meant that i had to go in and open up.

who should i find waiting for me on the door step with a big beaming self righteous grin on his face but a jw!

highdose

i found it incredible that he would balently deny 607 and 1914 at all!

you i kinda feel like the person i used to be only 1 year ago, the devout modest jw, is really shocked at what i've just done!

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the RV just became a DNC!!!!

by highdose in

some of you may remember me posting a few days ago that my shop had become some jw's magazine route.

well today the staff who was supposed to man the shop has called in sick, which meant that i had to go in and open up.

who should i find waiting for me on the door step with a big beaming self righteous grin on his face but a jw!

some of you may remember me posting a few days ago that my shop had become some jw's magazine route. Well today the staff who was supposed to man the shop has called in sick, which meant that i had to go in and open up. Who should i find waiting for me on the door step with a big beaming self righteous grin on his face but a JW! He was holding a large stack of english language brochures. He asked me if i remembered him? I said no, since i havn't met him before, he told me that he had called recently and left a brochure with me! Had I read it?

I replied no, and could he please tell his people not to ever call at this shop again. He asked why? I told him i did not agree with his beliefs, he immedatly wanted to know which beliefs? I told him for a start that he belived that Jeruesalem was destoryed in 607, he replied " no no no no! we do not belive this at all!" i said " you do! and you know you do! thats why you also belive in 1914" " no no no we do not belive that anyone knows the date when jesus is coming! in 1914 yes, things changed in the world but the bible says that no one knows when the lord is coming"

i told him i did not agree with him, and to make sure that he made a note that none of his people were to call here in future. He said " but how can you not agree? we are christian like you!" he then started wagging a irrate finger in my face and shouting " you people! you go to war! and you kill eachother in the name of god! we do not do this! can you not see that we are right?!!... what religon are you?"

i told him i was of no religon, " no religon?! but then how can you have no beliefs? what you belive?" i told him i belived in treating others well, being a responsible member of the communtiy and looking out for others and i added " i do not go to war, i don't kill people and i don't agree with your religon!"

by this time he looked furious and the expression on his face was one of foul hatred, the greeks around here would say he was giving me the "evil eye". He asked for his brochure back in a trimupant way, i told him yes i had it and he could have it back. To which he replied excitedly " and did you read it?" i said no and i wouldn't ever. I handed him back his brochure and other magazines that have been left before, he didn't want to take the magazines as he had not left them. I told him to take them away and make sure no one else of his religon ever came round with them again! He left.

I was shaking at the end, not sure why? i'm sure he can figure out that i'm apostate so hopefully he won't be back. I spent the rest of the morning thinking of all the other things i would have liked to have said, but hopefully i will never get a chance...

So its offical! i'm now a Do not call:)

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Report from Russia

by highdose in

jw
friends

below are two emails that are doing the rounds in dub land.

they contain an account of a convention that was set up in russia in woods, the email has photos but i can't figure out how to post them up too.

but it shows bros and sis in the middle of a forest, on plastic chairs, freezing!!.

highdose

i don't understand why they are acting like they are under ban? Surely its just some of their litriture only thats banned? so whats with the secrect conventions in freezing woodlands etc???

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"sweet" story from dub land( will make anyone else cringe with horror)

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friends

why take notes at meetings.

a little girl and her family were on their way to the kingdom hall.. half-way into the trip, the little girl shouted: "stop!

" the father asked: "why?

highdose

this is an email doing the rounds in dub land again, no idea if its all made up or not. But the expected reaction from the dubs is "awwww!" not " how terrible! that a little girl has been so brain washed and frightened, she belives that if she does not take notes even once she will be destoryed by her "loving god"!"

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Report from Russia

by highdose in

jw
friends

below are two emails that are doing the rounds in dub land.

they contain an account of a convention that was set up in russia in woods, the email has photos but i can't figure out how to post them up too.

but it shows bros and sis in the middle of a forest, on plastic chairs, freezing!!.

highdose

below are two emails that are doing the rounds in dub land. They contain an account of a convention that was set up in Russia in woods, the email has photos but i can't figure out how to post them up too. But it shows bros and sis in the middle of a forest, on plastic chairs, freezing!!

Dear friends:

Many of us have been keeping close touch with the website www.jw-media.org that has had different accounts of the legal pains that are beng used in Russia to disrupt the worship of Jehovah God there. We find it of great interest that the power behind the politicians is so obvious--and we can only wonder when Jehovah's angel might be told to do his job (Revelation 18:21)! We can pray incessantly right now for the relief and comfort for our brothers and look at ourselves and ask if we will have the fortitude they repeatedly are showing! This letter has been around the globe already for I received it from Africa--so if it comes back to those of you who have received it you will understand it does not take long for news to be received. In this case we can only rejoice for Jehovah blessed all the efforts made. There are many lessons for those of us in different places as we read this very carefully. Below, is another letter from that part of the world that is so encouraging.

A sister from British Columbia shared this with me. The writer is one of a married couple serving now in Russia but who originated in Canada.

Hi all!

A couple weeks ago we were all secretly told thru our Service Groups that October 4th we should be prepared for our Special Assembly Day. Besides the instruction to dress warm and bring money for transport, no other details were given. However, having the assemblies in the forest isn't something new here any more. Last summer after our venue was cancelled for the District Convention, the brothers thought up this great idea to use a plot of private land belonging to one elder and his family as a convention site. It went well despite attempted interference from police. This summer it was planned at the same location from the get-go in view of major difficulties in finding any place willing to rent to us.

But this fall was a first. An assembly in the forest in October! That means that the facility that we've used to hold the last 3 smaller assemblies in a city about 2 hours away has finally caved under pressure from the church, the authorities, the fcb {?} or all 3 and will no longer rent to us despite it being very profitable for them. So that leaves us to the forest!

This was all pretty exciting for me since I wasn't here last summer for the first forest convention and obviously this summer I wasn't in Russia either so I missed the second one. We all bundled warm, bringing extra clothing and rain gear and thermoses of hot drinks. I have to say we were very fortunate. The whole week before and the whole week after our meeting it rained every day. The day of the assembly was beautiful and sunny. It was close to freezing in the morning, of course, but at least we weren't soaking wet. By the afternoon it was actually quite pleasant! For this Special Assembly Day we had about 1800 in attendance, the whole district.

I was totally amazed at how professional the whole set up was. Hopefully you get an idea from the photos. The chairs, stage, sound system was all set up perfectly. Even tents were set up for those with children and the elderly in case of rain. Outhouses were shipped out to the site (the largest expense of the convention) and a make-shift hand washing station was set up. Nothing was overlooked. All went off without a hitch as far as I know.

It looks like we're resigned to having such gatherings in the forest from now on since we just had a resolution read to set aside money for the purchase of portable toilets since the rental of them is so costly. How many circuits in Canada own their own Jiffy Biffys he?

But that's not all.

The authorities seem to be stepping up efforts to eliminate JWs here. It was openly stated on the news last month that efforts are being made to ban us. Last Friday a completely slanderous program was aired on TV about us and how we make millions and kill children and things like that. These get a wide audience and Russians, being rather gullible when it comes to what they see on TV, tend to believe the lies. We're meeting with a lot of questions and suspicions as to who we are and what is our organization.

For our local needs Friday, we were informed that due to efforts to ban us and our literature, we will no longer be stocking any literature in the Kingdom Hall whatsoever. Not one piece will be stored there. Just like in the old days before we had a Hall! It will be distributed thru the service groups. Also no announcement board or schedules for meetings will be posted. This Friday coming up we'll also be having a special part with more information pertinent to the situation. This is over the entire country, not just in our region. Forest assemblies have become something very common all over and the decision about literature was made at the Branch and will be effective everywhere as of this week.

We just wait and see. The preaching work goes on without problems as of yet. Who knows what will happen soon. Our nasty neighbor below us hates us and constantly writes complaints about us and accuses us of being from a sect, etc. They greet us with 'Hello Witnesses' is a snide tone. Interestingly enough, our other neighbor who we're friends with informed us that the nasty lady was invited for an official meeting with the police on the 15th (I guess that's tomorrow). We have no idea why that is but we're suspicious that suddenly they're taking an interest in her complaints because of the fact that we're Witnesses. Again, we'll see!

Hope you all are keeping busy in the service and never taking for granted the freedom and ease you can preach with. You never know when that might end. We'll do the same! Take care all, (End of report from Russia)

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"sweet" story from dub land( will make anyone else cringe with horror)

by highdose in

jw
friends

why take notes at meetings.

a little girl and her family were on their way to the kingdom hall.. half-way into the trip, the little girl shouted: "stop!

" the father asked: "why?

highdose

Why Take Notes at Meetings

A little girl and her family were on their way to the Kingdom Hall.

Half-way into the trip, the little girl shouted: "STOP! We have to go
back home!" The father asked: "Why? What's wrong, honey?"
"Dad, we HAVE to go home now. We just HAVE to!"
Seeing the concern in her eyes, and a little tear forming in the
corner, he said: "Okay, we will, we will, but can you
please tell me why?"
With a brief sigh of relief, she exclaimed, "Because I forgot my notebook."

The father and mother smiled to each other. "Oh, I see. Well, that's
okay. You can ...."

"No, it's NOT, Daddy!" the little girl interrupted, choking back her
tears that were beginning to well up in her eyes.

"Don't you remember, Daddy? The story of the people of Noah's day?
Remember, they took no notes and the flood came
and swept them all away!"

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i'm now a return visit! how do i stop this?

by highdose in

at my place of business which i own, i have discovered that the local jw's have taken to dropping in magazines, brocheres etc.

the staff accept them just to be polite but arn't interested.

but you know the deluded jw's... my business has quickly turned into someones magazine route!.

highdose

at my place of business which i own, i have discovered that the local JW's have taken to dropping in magazines, brocheres etc. The staff accept them just to be polite but arn't interested. But you know the deluded jw's... my business has quickly turned into someones magazine route!

This has to stop! How do i stop it?

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ok roll up your sleeves and get stuck into this one! ( you will love this!)

by highdose in

came accross this website, clearly set up by a jw .

it firmly states that the bible over wheamlingly supports 607 not any other date at all!

and that if any other date eg 587 were to be used, it would make a mockery of the whole bible!.

highdose

ok well what would you say to the arguement that 578 makes the rest of the bible fall apart and that time wise dosn't fit?

this isn't a joke btw, i want to tell certain jw's i know about 607, but the first thing they may do is go online and find websites like this, so i need a defence!

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ok roll up your sleeves and get stuck into this one! ( you will love this!)

by highdose in

came accross this website, clearly set up by a jw .

it firmly states that the bible over wheamlingly supports 607 not any other date at all!

and that if any other date eg 587 were to be used, it would make a mockery of the whole bible!.

highdose

there are at least 4 of these sites that i have found thus far, theres even one that claims to have taken the postion that 578 is the year, then it gives a very thin arguement with no facts and quickly reverts back to to 607. I love the quote from one of them:

"Jehovah's Witnesses agree with secular historians that 539BCE is the year in which Babylon was conquered by Medo-Persia. There is so much evidence that it is called an absolute date and there is no Biblical evidence that would contradict this date. But here is where the discrepancy comes in. Secular historians believe Neb (Nebuchadnezzar) began his reign in 605BCE. Jehovah's Witnesses believe his reign began in 625BCE. What accounts for the 20 year discrepancy?"

in other words, we will accept secular history when it suits us, but when it dosn't then a ancient non historical book is better!

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ok roll up your sleeves and get stuck into this one! ( you will love this!)

by highdose in

came accross this website, clearly set up by a jw .

it firmly states that the bible over wheamlingly supports 607 not any other date at all!

and that if any other date eg 587 were to be used, it would make a mockery of the whole bible!.

highdose

ok so i guess the real arguement is this: How would you tell a JW that they should look at secular evidence? Not just the bible?