@congisonance: you are right, we find support here at JWD. It's great. Yes it's crazy to be true!
@1009 thanks for this advise you give me. It's the best advise that's given to me in 42 years. Thanks so much.
Gorbatchov
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Feeling not well: guilt
by Gorbatchov ingorby is not feeling well at the moment.
wife and kids went to the kh last week.
gorby stayed at home watching live soccer game psv - milan.
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Feeling not well: guilt
by Gorbatchov ingorby is not feeling well at the moment.
wife and kids went to the kh last week.
gorby stayed at home watching live soccer game psv - milan.
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Gorbatchov
Gorby is not feeling well at the moment. Wife and kids went to the KH last week. Gorby stayed at home watching live soccer game PSV - Milan.
The next day the guilt feeling came. Thinking about my kids at the KH without me.
Next step was thinking about my own JW youth. The good things. The fun I had at the book study. In the late '70 and early '80 when I was 7 to 10 years old it was feeling safe and secure. The highlights, the first "lecture", reading the bible for the congregation. The applause of the audience...
This feels worse, because it influences my relationship with the most valuable I have: my 2 kids of 4 years old and my wife.
So, next to the guilt came hate. I hate this f*ck*ng religion with it's so called standards and best way of life. Because it torn apart my own fantastic close family.
Gorbatchov
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Why I chose my Nickname Gorbatchov
by Gorbatchov inwhy i chose my nickname gorbatchov on jwd / jwn:.
watch this documentary about former soviet president gorbatchov and from 8:50 you are informed about his dissident aspect.. he was against soviet party rules from his younger days... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz5jrctnvk8.
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Gorbatchov
Why I chose my Nickname Gorbatchov on JWD / JWN:
Watch this documentary about former Soviet president Gorbatchov and from 8:50 you are informed about his dissident aspect.
He was against Soviet party rules from his younger days...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz5jrcTnvK8
Cheers, Gorby
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Interview Dutch Witness family: Jehovah is above everything else. Even above our children!
by Gorbatchov inin a dutch (netherlands) nationwide daily newspaper, today an interview with a witness family was published.
a perfect witness family.. only not so perfect: they say "jehovah is first for us and above everything else.
even above our children".
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Gorbatchov
@1009: Are you from the Netherlands also? A coincidence that you know him. It's a small world. He is from a congregation nearby but I did not see him.
They look like a relaxed couple with nice kids. He does IT @ KLM so he is not stupid... but is indoctrinated.
I wonder what makes them being interviewed by a national newspaper. Maybe they are asked to do this by Bethel or the CO.
No witness does an interviews without asked to do so.
But it's bad PR / bad press for WTS.
Gorby
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Interview Dutch Witness family: Jehovah is above everything else. Even above our children!
by Gorbatchov inin a dutch (netherlands) nationwide daily newspaper, today an interview with a witness family was published.
a perfect witness family.. only not so perfect: they say "jehovah is first for us and above everything else.
even above our children".
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Gorbatchov
@outlaw: what fascinates me is the Anti-logica in their story: they say first that their children have to decide for themselve, for being a witness or not.
One quote further they say that because Jehovah is above their children, a choice for the world will make them shun their children. Because Jehovah is above everything.
They also say that the paradise is only for Jehovah's witnesses. And that they maybe move to Italy right after Armageddon. If you wish to go to Italy, do it right now, should I say. They also say there are no rules in paradise. Not even trafic rules! They don't know the elder flock book of the WTS ((:
I think the PR manager of the Dutch Watchtower Offices is not so happy with this interview. Because it shows to the world a nice couple with nice children being fully indoctrinated by a sect believe system. I pray this interview will make some witness wake up for TTAT.
Gorby
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Interview Dutch Witness family: Jehovah is above everything else. Even above our children!
by Gorbatchov inin a dutch (netherlands) nationwide daily newspaper, today an interview with a witness family was published.
a perfect witness family.. only not so perfect: they say "jehovah is first for us and above everything else.
even above our children".
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Gorbatchov
In a Dutch (Netherlands) nationwide daily newspaper, today an interview with a Witness family was published. A perfect Witness family.
Only not so perfect: they say "Jehovah is first for us and above everything else. Even above our children". Ehhh sect alert.
Of course, most witness are not that bad. This family is not so bad at all, I think. But they are indoctrinated. Indoctrinated by our sect believe system.
Like Abraham took his knife for killing his son, this not so bad at all family elders say "Jehovah is first and above our children". You don't believe it, isn't it?!?
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The WTBTS-What A Joke!
by JW GoneBad ini found these questions that were part of a theocratic written review for the week of february 24, 2003 that are in need of updating:.
multiple choice: the faithful and discreet slave mentioned by jesus at matthew 24:45-47 is (a) the governing body of jehovahs witnesses; (b) all anointed christians as a group on earth at any given time; (c) jesus christ himself.
back in 2003 the correct answer would have been (b) all anointed christians as a group on earth at any given time.
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Gorbatchov
JW gonebad, great post! This is a sign of the silly religion we are of were part of. The're gone crazy. And the rank-and-file parroting the FDS.
I'm faded and it feels great.
I make a copy of your post, it's great and will help to inform other JW's about our sect.
Gorby
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Transcript "Beware of Human Apostates (dutch version)
by DeWandelaar inwell... here is a transcript of the talk about the human apostates.
i have recorded it and i have noted the talk word for word.
there may be one or two missing (because of background noise) but it is 99.999% acurate.
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Gorbatchov
Hi all!
Sorry i thought you all speak duch for second language, just like the founding fathers of the US whahaha. Dewandelaar you are right, they insult on a cheap way. It's not Christian behavior.
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Transcript "Beware of Human Apostates (dutch version)
by DeWandelaar inwell... here is a transcript of the talk about the human apostates.
i have recorded it and i have noted the talk word for word.
there may be one or two missing (because of background noise) but it is 99.999% acurate.
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Gorbatchov
Klopt, ging inderdaad over het zwaard.
Het kwam er op neer dat je moet kiezen tussen Jezus of contact met uitgesloten familieleden.
Onderbouwing was dat Jezus heeft voorzegd dat hij tot verdeeldheid zou leiden in plaats van verenigd zijn. Huisgezinnen worden verdeeld is voorzegd.
Daarbij werd gezegd dat niet het genootschap de uitsluitingsregels heeft bedacht maar dat ze van god afkomstig zijn.
Ongelooflijk wat een onchristelijke opstelling en wat een bewijs van gebrek aan echte christelijke liefde in ons geloof.
Ik ben benieuwd waar dit allemaal heen gaat. Men slaat opnieuw een regide richting in, die absoluut niet de mijne is.
In een andere lezing werd aangehaald dat we maar een waarheid kunnen hebben. Een persoonlijke waarheid bestaat niet. Dit wist men ook nog te onderbouwen door een wetenschapper. Hoe komen ze er in hemelsnaam op!
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Transcript "Beware of Human Apostates (dutch version)
by DeWandelaar inwell... here is a transcript of the talk about the human apostates.
i have recorded it and i have noted the talk word for word.
there may be one or two missing (because of background noise) but it is 99.999% acurate.
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Gorbatchov
Hoi dewandelaar,
Ik heb gisteren in Utrecht deze lezing aangehoord, kringopziener Blok, een oude scherpslijper, hield de lezing.
Op zich weinig nieuws. Volgens mij lette niemand echt op.
Goed in het nog even na te kunnen lezen. Ik vond de lezing over hoe om te gaan met uitgeslotenen veel schokkender!
Groeten, Gorby
