Newly Enlighted this is not the letter i'm searching for.
I search for the 25 april BOE about the transfer of the ownership of all congregational property to the Watchtower Society.
This is what I heard off in the grapevine.
Gorby
does someone have the boe april 25 letter about the transfer of the local ownership of all kingdom halls to the society?.
it seems a mayor financial transaction, allthough here in the netherlands.. gorby.
Newly Enlighted this is not the letter i'm searching for.
I search for the 25 april BOE about the transfer of the ownership of all congregational property to the Watchtower Society.
This is what I heard off in the grapevine.
Gorby
does someone have the boe april 25 letter about the transfer of the local ownership of all kingdom halls to the society?.
it seems a mayor financial transaction, allthough here in the netherlands.. gorby.
The BOE 25 letter anounces the transfer of all local congregation property incl halls and appartements to the Watchtower Society.
Worldwide we could talk about a billions euro property transfer and definly making the Society a property fund.
Gorby
does someone have the boe april 25 letter about the transfer of the local ownership of all kingdom halls to the society?.
it seems a mayor financial transaction, allthough here in the netherlands.. gorby.
Does someone have the BOE april 25 letter about the transfer of the local ownership of all kingdom halls to the Society?
It seems a mayor financial transaction, allthough here in the Netherlands.
Gorby
i had a rough day of physical work and was tired and cold.
i decided to stay home and rest.
when my wife found out, a very strange look swept over her face for just an instant.
Don't complain about your wife's choices. You are one of them!
All the best, take care!
Gorby
the wts is begging poor relatives of mine for money, more money, and more money.
but, the wts has to be awash in money!.
1. does anyone know what the wts has sold?
I followed the transactions since the first sell off at Brooklyn.
They got 1 billion Dollar.
The remaining buildings owned in Brooklyn are valued for another 1 billion Dollar.
So they have done good business.
It's crazy with the new donation arrangement they will get much more miney.
It seems there is never enough. Why? I don't know. Did they lost much at the crisis in 2008? Who knows.
My view is that the WTS is now reformed to a property fund. The religion part of it is the financial resource.
Gorby
after knowing ttatt for many years now...i had made up my mind long ago that after 2014, i would no-longer subject myself to the boredom, pain, and frustration of following this cult...the wt...the borg.. so...i made up my mind that since the wtbts/gb makes such a big deal as to the "significance" of the year 1914 and this year 2014, there can be no greater time for me to leave it all behind.
i daydreamed of how awesome and telling it would be if everyone that could ( because i do know that some have personal circumstances of their own, as i did too) would just .... walkout...never to attend/step foot in a kingdom hall from that moment on.. independence day of sorts?
there is too much evidence, too many videos, blogs, books, news reports and lawsuits for me to keep lying to myself.
It's most of all a social system. The bogus is just colleteral.
People stay for family reasons and for their weekly contacts they enjoy. The dates are not relevant for them.
At the moment you begin to think and analyze you have a problem that leads to fading and exit.
It's just like 1984.
Moral assholes are the leaders on top. They know it's all crap and stay for their status.
Gorby
the jw date-worshipped memorial has just completed its bleak worldwide commemoration.
that wasn't a dust cloud you saw; it was a millionfold hearts limply beating themselves into another round of great tribulation expectations.
i was knocked into a deep, deep sleep by the imagined experience of being at several thousand consecutive kingdom halls as the platformed drones spat forth the predictable sludge that, once released, hits and stains white clothing and bleach is useless.. we know that memorial attendance worldwide has dipped for two consecutive years since 2011 when it reached a high of 19,374,737 and for the promised land, obama's usa, the all time memorial attendance high was also 2011 when it hit over 2.5million (2,563,518) but shrunk in shame back to 2,502,055 in 2012 and spluttered upwards a handful or two to 2,504,114 last year.. so, what was attendance at the date-obsessed bore-fest this year in your neck of the woods?
Empty seats too here.
our memorial was held at a music hall with roughly 1300-1400 in attendance.
there was a guest speaker from bethell, guess who??
andre!
I heard it too: the jw.org advertise at the end of the memorial talk. It was a shame.
since a week ago, gorby was a little nervous.
last years memorial was the last meeting he visited at the local hall.
since then, they all were faders.
Because of family reasons, Gorby and his family, decided to visit the Kingdom Hall for the memorial tradition. Since a week ago, Gorby was a little nervous. Last years memorial was the last meeting he visited at the local hall. Since then, they all were faders. The preparations with wife and 2 children this evening reminded him of the 42 years of visiting the meetings. Choosing clothing and leaving right on time not to be late. When we drove on the parking lane of the hall, I told my wife and children that I hated to go into the hall. One time a year, a small investment for avoiding family problems. We entered the hall, off course being welcomed by some brothers assigned for welcoming. It did not feel real. We walked to our family in the hall. It felt we came from another planet. I tried not to fake a kingdom smile, staying serious. Said "Hello" to a brother who then look awfully at my beard. Then the memorial started. A little analyze: there was no flashback to the early christians. No flashback with some bible text to 33 GT. That's strange. We stayed into "now". Then the brother tried to explain the two classes of christians. He couldn't. It was so illogical.
It was all over before I mentioned it. An elder came to me and asked me about the children and some other family members. He didn't asked about our situation, our fade. Then 2 colleagues came talking about my job and our company. A small talk. Then I walked away, and 9 out of 10 didn't look at me at all, didn't smile, didn't say hello. I know, they are not my people anymore. So, I know since today, we are not their people anymore, also. For sure, I think that they are so indoctrinated about witness who are not visiting the meeting anymore. I started the car, we drove away, enjoining the nice full moon shining through the clouds.
Gorby
hey all - i was wondering if we can use this thread as an ongoing one to detail branch closings of the last 5 years or so and any moving forward?
i had a discussion with some members of my family, who are still dyed in the wool jws, and they didn't believe me about numerous branch closures in recent years.
i was trying to look up some threads that talked about it here (on my phone), but couldn't find a thread quickly.. thanks in advance!.
Belgium Brussels is closing soon.