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  Enemy at the Gayes

  by Gorbatchov in

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  yesterday the co went 3 times to our house for an encouragement visit.. gorby's wife noticed him and the elder just on time to keep the door closed.. after 7 years of fading we are on the radar again.. g.. .

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  Gorbatchov

  Last meeting was the memorial.

  "You found the road to the KH again was the only comment we got.

  All the others ignored us and turned their backs to us.

  Today they came again a few times but we ignored the doorbell.

  Since 7 years inactive and only memorial visits for family reasons.

  I think they are pressed by the CO to find out why we are not active anymore.

  Reason is we find out that the religion is full of hypocrisy and fear and

  in fact the society is a property investment fund that makes use of

  people for their own GB proposes.

  I'm 4th generation and my son Andropov is 5th generation. He is 5 years old ;-)

  G.
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  Enemy at the Gayes

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday the co went 3 times to our house for an encouragement visit.. gorby's wife noticed him and the elder just on time to keep the door closed.. after 7 years of fading we are on the radar again.. g.. .

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  Gorbatchov

  Yesterday the CO went 3 times to our house for an encouragement visit.

  Gorby's wife noticed him and the elder just on time to keep the door closed.

  After 7 years of fading we are on the radar again.

  G.
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  Underrated topic: Gazprom contract with CCJW in the Netherlands

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i posted some days earlier a toppic about the contract between the russian state owned energy supplier gazprom and the ccjw.

  here in the netherlands for all the kingdom hall's gas and electricity.. the contract is chosen by ccjw because gazprom is the cheapest suplier.

  with the heated debat here in holland because of the mh17 shooting and.

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  Gorbatchov

  I posted some days earlier a toppic about the contract between the Russian state owned energy supplier Gazprom and the CCJW

  here in The Netherlands for all the Kingdom hall's gas and electricity.

  The contract is chosen by CCJW because Gazprom is the cheapest suplier.

  With the heated debat here in Holland because of the MH17 shooting and

  the poor human rights in Russia with also JW's victims it is clear that CCJW

  has a lack of feeling the people's opinion and a lack of corporate governance.

  And it could be fun if it isn't so serious: when visiting a KH you can feel

  comfortable because the heating is working on Gazprom gas and electricity.

  G.
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  deal between gazprom and wts

  by Gorbatchov in

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  i read on the secure elder part of jw.org that gazprom is the new suplier of energy to the wts.. they use a collective contract for discount reasons.. so the king of the north is heating the kingdom hall.. globalisation.. g.. .

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  Gorbatchov

  Hi bluesbrother,

  Gazprom is owned by yhe rRussian government. The same government that makes the life of jw's difficult and wanted to shut down jw.org.

  It's all about corporate governance.

  G.
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  deal between gazprom and wts

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
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  i read on the secure elder part of jw.org that gazprom is the new suplier of energy to the wts.. they use a collective contract for discount reasons.. so the king of the north is heating the kingdom hall.. globalisation.. g.. .

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  Gorbatchov

  I read on the secure elder part of jw.org that gazprom is the new suplier of energy to the WTS.

  They use a collective contract for discount reasons.

  So the king of the north is heating the kingdom hall.

  Globalisation. What's your opinion?

  G.
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  "Jehovah's spirit is being blocked in the congregation"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, how many times have we heard this expression (or a variation of it):.

  "jehovah's spirit seems to be blocked here in the congregation...perhaps he is bringing something to light...etc".

  it seems that the org often uses this expression, and links it with the "fact" that god wont bless a cong as much,(or at all) if there is "stuff" or "sins" being carried out.. so, why is it then that the cong i am in is experiencing its best years of activity in all aspects?

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  During an elder meeting in our congregation one of the hard liners said "there must be a sinner here because

  Jehovahs blessing has left the congregation".
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  The difference between Jesus and one of his brothers

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. watchtower
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  reading a lot about gerrit losch and his juridical statement.. when i judge the situation with a "spiritual view" i have to conclude.

  that gerrit's behavior is more like the apostle peter's denial of christ.. .

  when jesus crist had advocates like gerrit, and took his activities in a. first century corporation and denied leading the christian activities.

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  Reading a lot about Gerrit Losch and his juridical statement.

  When I judge the situation with a "spiritual view" I have to conclude

  that Gerrit's behavior is more like the apostle Peter's denial of Christ.

  When Jesus Crist had advocates like Gerrit, and took his activities in a

  first century corporation and denied leading the Christian activities

  he never died on the stake or cross. He was then being able conducting

  the GB choir at the first century anual meetings and managing his

  Property investments.

  Gorby
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  Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't know, km's are now online too.

  under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

  " it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

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  This is unbelievable too. I can't follow the current changes whats going on with these people??

  G.
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  Caleb & Sofia have Mormon cousins

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
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  this was pointed out by throwingawayjehovah.

  http://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/2lnkst/this_was_in_a_mormon_catalog_that_got_sent_to_us/.

  http://www.coreyegbert.com/blog/i-want-to-be-baptized.

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  This is so unbelievable and it supports my wife's view that JW and mormon will merge someday.

  It's impossible they are so stupid to copy and past. There must be a plan isn't it?

  G.
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  Gorbatchov

  Here in the Netherlands (west of Germany for the US reader), the Branch closed all the non-dutch foreign language congregations.

  2 reasons:

  1. too many dutch JW fled to the foreign field and congregations. It seems an escape route;

  2. branch stated that the foreigner has to learn the language of the country. (this is a flip / flop because the JW had to learn other language first to

  search for the foreigner).

  I think it was to close down the escape route of JW's to the foreign congregations and to level down local meetings at the kingdom hall.

  Maybe the US will get this new "arangement" too. Many here became upset and had to move to another congregation.

  In our congregation, a dutch brother, clothed in Franch style with alpino hat, is singing loud in the French language during the dutch meeting.

  That's the effect...

  G.