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Gorbatchov
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$345 million - Kushner purchases 85 Jay St
by OrphanCrow injared kushner closes on another dumbo heights property.
jared kushner has another jehovah’s witnesses site in his company’s development pocket.on tuesday, the former kushner companies (now called simply “kushner”), along with asher abehsera’s livwrk and the cim group, closed on a $345 million purchase of 85 jay st. in the same dumbo neighborhood as the jehovah’s witnesses’ watchtower real estate.bob knakal acted as a consultant to watchtower’s in-house group.now a parking lot, the full block can host an as-of-right 1.1-million- square-foot mixed-use development.“this site has tremendous upside, and we’re looking forward to developing a project that will further enhance the area and help strengthen connections between the dumbo heights campus and the waterfront,” said laurent morali, president of kushner..
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Will Governing Body stop preaching work?
by neat blue dog inat this year's annual meeting (2016), david "mark" sanderson asks the audience the question, "are you determined to keep on preaching with us until we say the work is completed?
" to which they respond with applause.
do you think that stopping the preaching work will ever be a part of the gb's long range plan?
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Gorbatchov
End of preaching work = end of control system, the end of "keep them bussy" and the end of recruting.
A big NO.
G.
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FYI, Trump's pick for U. S. Army Secretary is Vincent Viola. What's Viola's connection with the Watchtower?
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://therealdeal.com/2016/12/19/trump-taps-virtu-ceo-brooklyn-real-estate-investor-vincent-viola-for-army-secretary/.
the jehovah’s witnesses’ building at 124 columbia heights (credit: getty images) and vincent viola.
"president-elect donald trump nominated virtu financial ceo — and recent brooklyn real estate investor — vincent viola for secretary of the u.s. army on monday.. "a 1977 west point graduate, viola served with the 101st airborne division at fort campbell, kentucky.
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Gorbatchov
It's all about money.
And WT is not scared for making dirty deals.
All KH's in Holland (a few hundred) are heating with Gasprom gas. A Russian firm with close ties to Vladimir.
So, WT is not that narrow minded when money is involved.
The best deal what ever it takes.
G.
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The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief
by sir82 inrecently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.
it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.
he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.
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Gorbatchov
I think there are Cayman funds. It's a cash cow.
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The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief
by sir82 inrecently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.
it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.
he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.
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Gorbatchov
It's The Firm. Cayman Islands, Bahama's!
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Our first act of rebellion against the Watchtower.
by The Rebel inone day at art class, we were told we were to draw a naked woman.
i knew as a witness this would be wrong, but i awaited the lesson in anticipation, it would be the first time i had seen a naked woman.
i remember sitting at my esal waiting ten or fifteen minutes for her to appear.
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Gorbatchov
Free thinking weekends with wine and dine with a JW who studied on a University and others.
And then... reading Ray Franz with them.
It was 1995, then, when the 1914 doctrine changed.
It all came together.
G.
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Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?
by Iamallcool inany elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.
i hope that they will never ask me that question.
any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.
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Gorbatchov
"That's an excellent question br. XXX. Maybe you can tell me how you think about that aspect!"
Answer "bladibladiblaba"
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Mass JW exodus
by stockholm_Syndrome inmaybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
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Gorbatchov
No.
The rank and file JW are happy. There is no need for change when you are in a comfort zone.
Even if 1914 would change to 2014 and every JW would get a heavenly belonging, no one would left.
It's all about the comfort zone, not about the theology.
G.
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Who would vote to disband the JW organisation?
by Half banana infrom their history, it is evident that jehovah's witnesses are just another doomsday cult.. cults are run by autocrats.
on purpose they are ideologically fixated and they demand that their devotees hold the same absolute certainty of belief without regard for evidence.
the suspension of critical thought is encouraged and by focussing on the objectives of the cult belief in a like minded community, it gives both a sense of direction within a sort of ‘family’ and a hope of paradise perfection.. the leaders have everything to gain by controlling their followers; all the income goes in their direction.. democracy has strictly no part in a running cult.
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Gorbatchov
A big NO for me.
Every religion attracts it's own kind of population.
It's a regulation system for people who need support and maybe some control and hope for the future.
It keeps them busy and gives them a purpose for life.
Hence, most of the effects and output of the Watchtower believe are positive for those who need it.
And:
The society policy and the corporations acting is according to the rules of law.
(if they are not, they would be sentenced).
So if you want to be a JW, be it, if you won't be a JW, don't.
Disband the organization is hurting people and overdone.
G.
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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .
by NikL inso i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
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Gorbatchov
Ask your wife. She can decide for herself, so can you.
G.