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  Interesting piece about Stephen Lett and family: property developers

  by Diogenesister in

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  another very well researched programme by the blue envelope exploring stephen lett's bio and his family interest in property.

  interestingly his parents were pioneering until the new service year 1975 , when they immediately changed tack and began investing in properties along the gulf coast.

  once again, highly recommended veiwing.. https://youtu.be/9qh0jbvsdrc.

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  I think there is no problem Lett and his family have made investments. It is just wise.

  Problem is the double standard. The rank and file are living, especially now with problems like the virus, bush fires and stock markets, in Armageddon mode.

  I see in my own JW family 2 kind of styles:

  - my father, making property investments, savings and commodities exchange, seeing the JW belief more like a good way of living;

  - my family in law, living like every day is the last day before Armageddon, seeing the JW belief like a child, scared and depending on jw.org in everything they do.

  So, who is wise?

  That's the same for GB members. Lett and family are the wise guys, and yes, have a double standard.

  G.
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  Financially Are You Doing Better Than A Couple of Years Ago?

  by minimus in

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  we hear how the economy is much healthier now.

  are you better off than you were before, or the same or worse?

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  Here in The Netherlands, better then ever.

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  May WT study edition: full of king of North and South / Rusia

  by Gorbatchov in

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  jw.org is on collision course with russia.

  the may wt study edition is full of prophesy related to the time of the end and what we have read so much in isaiah and jeremia bookstudy publications.. they found their enemy again.

  jw.org needs enemy's to exist.

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  Jw.org is on collision course with Russia. The May WT study edition is full of prophesy related to the time of the end and what we have read so much in Isaiah and Jeremia bookstudy publications.

  They found their enemy again. Jw.org needs enemy's to exist.

  Sect.

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  How Many Here Remember Hearing Details from the Platform on Why a Person was Reproved or DF'd ???

  by RubaDub in

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  i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.

  at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.

  the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.

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  I remember being a child and feeling the change in atmosphere in the congregation when the PO walked after the congregational watchtower study to the platform for a special message.

  Holding my breath, because I was sensitive. I still can feel it, and hate it so much!

  Most of the local df's in our town were in the 70's related to apostate thinking.

  What a sect, it is emotional abuse. For a child to observate it, being sensitive.

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  My thoughts about Watchtower fully owned "independent" lawyer firm / Dutch case

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  of course we have the vampire story, but this is what i'm thinking of now:.

  in the current dutch jw.org law cases about child abuse and religion rights the jw.org is represented by shane brady, partner of w. glen how & associaties.

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  Friends,

  Of course we have the Vampire story, but this is what i'm thinking of now:

  In the current Dutch jw.org law cases about child abuse and religion rights the jw.org is represented by Shane Brady, partner of W. Glen How & associaties. https://wghow.ca/partners-associates.htm

  What I think, is that this law firm, fully owned by jw.org but presented to the outside world as independent law firm, is a money machine for Watchtower. It is very possible that the hours of the lawyers will be payed by the local witnesses cq. local Christian association of JW's.

  The more and more I think about this vehicle, the more I smell a money machine.

  When a court case is won by jw.org, the opposite party will be ordered to pay the lawyer costs. With this law firm jw.org can bring in a high cost level, because of the firm structure instead of a volunteer lawyer of jw.org

  Let me know if i'm wrong with this.

  G.
  
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  Watchtower hires Satanism author & Dracular society member Massimo Introvigne to defend them in Dutch CSA

  by Diogenesister in

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  hi guys...well watchtower gets wackier and wackier!.

  so watchtower has hired the author of several books on satanism & self proclaimed 'vampire' society member(!

  ) vlad...i mean massimo introvigne to defend them against a report by two academics recommending the dutch govt investigate jws.

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  If you would write a book, you could not imagine this scenario.

  I can't even talk with my jw father about this, because he will not believe it.

  But it is a true fact that a Vampire is an important consultant for jw.org

  O my God.

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  2019 Annual Meeting: more F.O.G.

  by neat blue dog in

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  after the new construction project is announced, anthony morris the turd gives a talk where he arrogantly tells the audience to 'get over it' and get to work.

  he says relaxing is fine and 'im not trying to put a guilt trip on you' but you all need to get busy.

  no graciousness at all for the endless volunteer labor they demand for whatever new projects they dream up.

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  Anthony Morris III gave a remarkable speech, kind of "keep your f***ing mouth shut and work for us".

  His eyes were arrogant and his style was so strange. These guys are going over the top.

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  Watchtower hires Satanism author & Dracular society member Massimo Introvigne to defend them in Dutch CSA

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys...well watchtower gets wackier and wackier!.

  so watchtower has hired the author of several books on satanism & self proclaimed 'vampire' society member(!

  ) vlad...i mean massimo introvigne to defend them against a report by two academics recommending the dutch govt investigate jws.

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  Gorbatchov

  This guy is part of CESNUR.

  Watchtower has had close links to CESNUR since 1995, at the moments when they need them.

  From inside thinking: This is the so called theocratic warfare. Use your enemy (Vampire) when you need them.

  From secular thinking: this man is a so called expert on this subject and member of many of new religion expert groups.

  A very strange cage, because in The Netherlands, Vampires are not well respected. I can see the face of the judge if he will notice this.

  G.
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  Chart today at station square @ Netherlands city

  by Gorbatchov in

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  today i searched and found the jw chart at the station square just across the corner of my work hq, were i had an appointment.

  this time they were not located at the central square, but hiding just arround a corner.

  i looked the jw's in the eye, a man and his wife, +/- 50 years old, and they looked very depressed, down and quilty.

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  Today I searched and found the JW Chart at the station square just across the corner of my work HQ, were I had an appointment.

  This time they were not located at the central square, but hiding just arround a corner. I looked the JW's in the eye, a man and his wife, +/- 50 years old, and they looked very depressed, down and quilty.

  How would it be, with the full child abuse exposure in the Dutch media, to take your chart and stand at one of the busiest places in the country, knowing that all the passengers are well informed about the jw.org policy and strategy.

  This must be killing for the local rank and file, enormous pressure, and maybe they see it as a sign of the end of times.

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  Congregations That May Dissolve Soon!!

  by Atlantis in

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  from a member of the board asking for this to be posted.. hi.

  i'm pimo.

  could you please let people know about this?

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  It's all about money.

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