Gorbatchov

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  Are You One of the People Considered "Essential" ???

  by RubaDub in

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  i keep hearing all of the things about "essential" people in this convid-19 virus thing.. well, i woke up this morning, did my morning poop, and just felt like i am essential.

  i walked around my house while my wife was still sleeping, did the alexa thing to hear the daily text.

  it made me feel good.

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  Gorbatchov

  4th generation just like me.

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  Mandatory Donations-2.

  by Atlantis in

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  mandatory donations-2.

  catholic church donation cards.

  https://uploads.weconnect.com/mce/e114c448f4ab8554ad14eff3d66dfeb3965ce8fc/tithing%20pledge%20card.pdf .

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  All things belong to Jehovah, they said years ago.

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  Watchtower Library

  by Paul Bonanno in

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  in the early 1980s together with my brothers we decided to started collecting watchtower literature and have them neatly in a library at home.

  with the help of our father he gave us all the books bought during the years that he had stored in a big wooden box.. after purchasing all the literature that we had missing from the kingdom hall we decided to write letters to the world headquarters of jehovah’s witnesses in brooklyn new york as well to the british and australian branch office.. unfortunately none of our requests bear fruit as they informed us: “it is doubtful whether they are available anywhere in the world….” (ca february 23, 1983); “unable to supply the old publications you request.” (sa: sg september 20, 1983) “we will keep your letter on our files….”(sa: sg january 22, 1983).. during the years we managed to obtain many of these early books going back to 1879 when this religious organization was started.. through barbara anderson we learned that in 30 columbia heights building new york they had a warehouse storage where they kept many old literature which don kommers the assistant of vern wisegarver was responsible for.

  through these publications we learned what exactly was written by charles russell and joseph rutherford regarding predictions that never came to be.

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  I have 5 old wt books stored.

  One of them is a 1917 birth day agenda book from the society.

  I took it away from the kingdom hall and never returned it, because of the trow away actions.

  They are just communists / socialists defining their own history again and again.

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  The toxic JW Worldview

  by TD in

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  sometimes i forget how small-minded, petty, provincial, mean-spirited ignorant and judgemental it was and still is.... then i sit down with a jw relative, hoping to have a normal conversation and realize there is literally nothing to talk about.. nothing..... current events?

  hobbies?

  your job?

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  @TD can you imagine in a country like The Netherlands / Holland were most people don't believe anything, a neighbour's backyard is making a lot of noise about these subjects. Good for the neighbourhood gossip.

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  Awake! March 22, 1993

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  does anyone happen to have a copy of the awake for march 22, 1993. .

  i'm especially interested in pages 3 and 4 of an article about false teachers..

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  In 1993 the Watchtower society was so much different.

  I remember this Awake!

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  The toxic JW Worldview

  by TD in

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  sometimes i forget how small-minded, petty, provincial, mean-spirited ignorant and judgemental it was and still is.... then i sit down with a jw relative, hoping to have a normal conversation and realize there is literally nothing to talk about.. nothing..... current events?

  hobbies?

  your job?

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  @Phizzy, you are right! It's a one way communication. They send. Others have to listen.

  This was the first time that some family, visiting, didn't act like visitors. They act like my nice, park style backyard was a battleground for free speech.

  So, new guest list the next summer 😆

  I type this smiley, but i am still flabbergasted about it. It was so extreme and so loud, al these sect speech.

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  Mandatory Donations??? Is This Accurate?

  by Atlantis in

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  does the information about mandatory donations in this post sound accurate to you?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/i1gews/new_letter_1000_donations_are_mandatory_now/ petra!

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  I think this was already taken place since +/- 20 years.

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  And this isn't a cult? Wife put on name tag for zoom assembly

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  and this isn't a cult?

  just saw my wife put on her name tag for the zoom assembly.... what the what?

  i thought these things werent even live.

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  It's sad to see family, people you like and love, switched off their rational thinking.

  It's like they are in a stream, a wild river, trying to keep their head above the water.

  Instead of taking some rest in this difficult times, they are in full sect mode, and they don't know it.

  Sect!!!

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  The toxic JW Worldview

  by TD in

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  sometimes i forget how small-minded, petty, provincial, mean-spirited ignorant and judgemental it was and still is.... then i sit down with a jw relative, hoping to have a normal conversation and realize there is literally nothing to talk about.. nothing..... current events?

  hobbies?

  your job?

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  My great irration this year was my jw family in our backyard, talking loud using words "The Watchtower, Jehovah and Jesus" and the most idiot story's.

  I asked please can you level your voice, but the answer was "we have nothing to be ashamed off".

  Then they begon talking louder about the pioneer school, the Zoom meetings and that we are in the end of the end times.

  I asked again, "no believe and no politics in our backyard" and then they began beeing angry "we are free to say what we want".

  So this was the last summer with jw family in our backyard. Most bizar was they did not listen to my request. They did not respect me. This was for the first time. And the last!

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  BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

  by Atlantis in

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  body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

  two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

  the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

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  Thanks for all and take care.

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