said with a smirk/smile/grin.
this one is the most glib i've seen.. actually, several times "75" came up.
maybe they feel the more they bring it up and make light of it, the more of a non-issue it will become..
Around 1995 one of the most influencing CO's in the Netherlands (doing much mess up work for the Dutch branch in the congregations) made a nice slip of the tongue: when he did quote the famous Orwell publication he said to the audience of the convention: "In Orwell's well known book 1975 .... bla bla".
The audience was reacting mumbling "He?!?".
Great fun to hear, I was just waking up and raid some good opinions about 1975 and the Watchtower false teachings. The CO did also, I think
Gorbatchov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-frdngnwvm .
here's a rare one you'll not find elsewhere, send it to your friends!.
new bethel entrants introduction to the governing body circa 1985. two new bethel boys at watchtower headquarters somehow managed to videotape this introduction to the brooklyn bethel headquarters of the governing body off of the bethel tv screen.
This is a great, great, great posting. Thanks. Video's and pictures of the recent leaders and their opinions about the organization are very rare to find.
Thanx a lot!
Gorbatchov
i attended the todays wt study and got notice of the illustration of jesus doing away capitol hill and barack obama.. i think the illustration passed the juridical advisors of the wts, having a blackout!
of are they trying to reach the anti government people like the tea party idiots with this kind of propaganda illustrations?.
is this a signal that the wts is anti democrats, anti obama?.
Thanks for your posts. I told my wife that I don't want to show the kids this Jesus picture. If you look good, it is really crazy that the brother's and sister's in the congregation don't stand up and say "This is not our Jesus".
The WTS is propagandizing a angry Jesus, a Jesus of revenge.
It's a part of the two different sides of the WTS corporation: a soft face to governments and organizations, a hard face to the members.
This kind of illustrations are published to keep the rank and file witnesses scared. Don't defect, else you would be killed in Armageddon.
This is not my Jesus!
i attended the todays wt study and got notice of the illustration of jesus doing away capitol hill and barack obama.. i think the illustration passed the juridical advisors of the wts, having a blackout!
of are they trying to reach the anti government people like the tea party idiots with this kind of propaganda illustrations?.
is this a signal that the wts is anti democrats, anti obama?.
I attended the todays WT study and got notice of the illustration of Jesus doing away Capitol Hill and Barack Obama.
I think the illustration passed the juridical advisors of the WTS, having a blackout!
Of are they trying to reach the anti government people like the Tea Party idiots with this kind of propaganda illustrations?
Is this a signal that the WTS is anti democrats, anti Obama?
Gorbatchov
there is a big insert in the jan kingdom ministry about the family worship night (which has evolved new capital letters - like governing body.).
some helpful suggestions include the head of the household putting an agenda on the fridge door a few days ahead for the family to "build excitement and anticipation" (i kid you not.
) the provision is compared to the sabbath arrangement as a gift from god.
Here in the Netherlands no JW family does Family Worship. We do actually have Idols night and Dancing on the Ice night.
And JWD evening!
Only on Sunday and the other evening gathering in the hall we remember we are witnesses.
The KM insert will not change this.
i never knew who was controlling my life.
i didn't know who they were, how they governed, what they personally believed etc.. granted the wtbts never put any of that out there but there are people who knew them and would of course relate "experiences" of meeting them and from that you could derive certain aspects of their personality.. i never thought to investigate the leadership until i started asking questions.. so how many are there now and what are their names?
i would like to ask my family if they can name them by heart.
See Philip Bromley with other church leaders in a US Government hearing:
i never knew who was controlling my life.
i didn't know who they were, how they governed, what they personally believed etc.. granted the wtbts never put any of that out there but there are people who knew them and would of course relate "experiences" of meeting them and from that you could derive certain aspects of their personality.. i never thought to investigate the leadership until i started asking questions.. so how many are there now and what are their names?
i would like to ask my family if they can name them by heart.
Phillip Brumley is the big man in charge. This Watchtower Lawyer does the political contacts in Washington, and lives in a Valley Farms Corporation (tm) owned mansion near the HQ at Patterson. There are pictures on the internet of Brumley at a hearing in the U.S. Congress.
I'm not against this people, but against their double standards: they don't walk the talk.
Be a man and become transparent about the useful contacts with governments and organizations and the NGO status of daughter company's (European Association of Jehovah's Witnesses, Aidafrique etc.)
i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.
what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.
better late then never though.
These Bethel speakers are acting like business people. I remember my (lovely) mother saying "The new CO is so fine. He is just a manager!".
Inside I was crying when I heard this.
Compare it with earlier times: "Jesus was so fine, he was just a manager".
The WTS has, from my European opinion, everything to do with the American way of life. It's all outside. If you have the management look and feel, and act like a manager, being absolutely loyal to the firm, you can reach sky high in the WTS corporation.
When I watched the movie The Firm for the first time, I directly compared it with the WTS corporation.
my avatar makes it clear: i'm interested in ussr history related to former president michael gorbatchev.
today i read an interview with him earlier this year.
he stated that although the ussr was not democratic and had huge problems, there was one thing on communism that was true: despite the human differences in the ussr, there was much unity, and love of the people.. the watchtower society claims "the love between the global witnesses" for claiming being the only true religion.. fun to read that a political system without religion at all, had the same!.
My Avatar makes it clear: I'm interested in USSR history related to former president Michael Gorbatchev.
Today I read an interview with him earlier this year. He stated that although the USSR was not democratic and had huge problems, there was one thing on communism that was true: despite the human differences in the USSR, there was much unity, and love of the people.
The Watchtower Society claims "the love between the global witnesses" for claiming being the only true religion.
Fun to read that a political system without religion at all, had the same!
while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).
also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.
so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].
Thanx brother, I hope you will find peace. I pray for you.
Gorbatchov
