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  Dilemma

  by Gorbatchov in

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  gorby and his lovely wife had during dinner a chat about watchtower hypocrisy.

  she faded with me since 2007 and shows sometimes affection for the organization.. we talked about the gb and ray franz.. she asked me if she could read my ray franz books.. now i have a dilemma.

  the books gave me a hard time in the '90.. i know the ray franz truth can hurt and shock her so much.

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  Gorbatchov

  Thanks all for your advise and opinion.

  I'm still not convinced what to do.

  G.
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  Dilemma

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby and his lovely wife had during dinner a chat about watchtower hypocrisy.

  she faded with me since 2007 and shows sometimes affection for the organization.. we talked about the gb and ray franz.. she asked me if she could read my ray franz books.. now i have a dilemma.

  the books gave me a hard time in the '90.. i know the ray franz truth can hurt and shock her so much.

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  Gorbatchov

  Gorby and his lovely wife had during dinner a chat about watchtower hypocrisy.

  She faded with me since 2007 and shows sometimes affection for the organization.

  We talked about the GB and Ray Franz.

  She asked me if she could read my Ray Franz books.

  Now I have a dilemma. The books gave me a hard time in the '90.

  I know the Ray Franz truth can hurt and shock her so much. And can even hurt family life.

  What to do?

  Gorby
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  jw.org getting out of hand

  by Gorbatchov in

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  it seems the watchtower staff have made a runaway train with the introduction of the mark jw.org.. the combination of using a gadget driven platform and the fact that the common jw is low educated and easely influenced.

  by new occurrings in their religion makes the situation getting out of hand.. proof: gb members wearing jw.org buttons during their speech, gifts with jw.org are given away, umbrellas with the jw.org are available.

  jw.org is more important then god, his son and the gospel.. it's the gadget and the jw.org mark that counts.. i am so happy my grandparents are not confronted with these idiots.. it's a runaway train heading to the end of the track.. gorby .

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  Gorbatchov

  Something is going on, isn't it?

  Gorby
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  jw.org getting out of hand

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
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  it seems the watchtower staff have made a runaway train with the introduction of the mark jw.org.. the combination of using a gadget driven platform and the fact that the common jw is low educated and easely influenced.

  by new occurrings in their religion makes the situation getting out of hand.. proof: gb members wearing jw.org buttons during their speech, gifts with jw.org are given away, umbrellas with the jw.org are available.

  jw.org is more important then god, his son and the gospel.. it's the gadget and the jw.org mark that counts.. i am so happy my grandparents are not confronted with these idiots.. it's a runaway train heading to the end of the track.. gorby .

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  jw.org getting out of hand

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems the watchtower staff have made a runaway train with the introduction of the mark jw.org.. the combination of using a gadget driven platform and the fact that the common jw is low educated and easely influenced.

  by new occurrings in their religion makes the situation getting out of hand.. proof: gb members wearing jw.org buttons during their speech, gifts with jw.org are given away, umbrellas with the jw.org are available.

  jw.org is more important then god, his son and the gospel.. it's the gadget and the jw.org mark that counts.. i am so happy my grandparents are not confronted with these idiots.. it's a runaway train heading to the end of the track.. gorby .

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  Gorbatchov

  It seems the Watchtower staff have made a runaway train with the introduction of the mark JW.org.

  The combination of using a gadget driven platform and the fact that the common JW is low educated and easely influenced

  by new occurrings in their religion makes the situation getting out of hand.

  Proof: GB members wearing jw.org buttons during their speech, gifts with jw.org are given away, umbrellas with the jw.org are available.

  Jw.org is more important then God, his Son and the gospel.

  It's the gadget and the jw.org mark that counts.

  I am so happy my grandparents are not confronted with these idiots.

  It's a runaway train heading to the end of the track.

  Gorby
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  What Gorby expects about future new light (tm)

  by Gorbatchov in

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  i am thinking about the future of wt doctrine, and one point "pops" up on a regular base.. they will bring new light about the great persecution.

  that this is a passed stage.

  we are living now in a spiritutal paradise.. babylon the great has fallen, peace and security has been spoken out in the '90's.

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  Gorbatchov

  I am thinking about the future of WT doctrine, and one point "pops" up on a regular base.

  They will bring new light about the great persecution. That this is a passed stage. We are living now in a spiritutal paradise.

  Babylon the Great has fallen, peace and security has been spoken out in the '90's. An unseen Armageddon has taken place already.

  That there will be 3 resurections. JW's can use a "carrousel" like system to choose from.

  1) resurection in paradise on earth;

  2) resurection in Kingdom in heaven;

  3) resurection in heaven as part of the 144k.

  The paradigm will change to a heavenly hope instead of an earthly hope.

  I'm curious what you think about this.

  Gorby
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  August KM: 100 year of Kingdom rule + adverse JW.ORG

  by Gorbatchov in

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  the august km left me stunned.

  in the mast head it connects 100 years of kingdom rule via j.f.

  rutherford famous "advertise" to the special campain in october for the website jw.org.. how low can we go?!?.

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  Gorbatchov

  The August KM left me stunned. In the mast head it connects 100 years of Kingdom rule via J.F. Rutherford famous "Advertise" to the special campain in october for the website JW.ORG.

  How low can we go?!?

  It's a great marketing trick to make a 100 year failure a huge succes with using simple minds gadgets, the tablet.

  Our friends at Brooklyn have to be nominated for the Nobel price of Marketing!

  They are masters of spin. And 7 milion rank and file are walking behind these marketeers.

  I'm for sure, there is a real power behind the old man of the GB. It's a one way money transfer.

  Please my dear lord, why are these people blind to see?!?

  Gorby
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  Thinking about the JW.ORG campaign in august

  by Gorbatchov in

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  it's great to see the jw.org tract in june, 2 months before the rank and file jw gets their eye on it.

  jwn is always actual.

  sitting here in the summer sun, drinking my coffee in the early morning, i got a memory about the co, who visited our former congregation in 2007.. it was the moment we decided to begin our fade and exit strategy.

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  Gorbatchov

  It's great to see the JW.ORG tract in june, 2 months before the rank and file JW gets their eye on it. JWN is always actual.

  Sitting here in the summer sun, drinking my coffee in the early morning, I got a memory about the CO, who visited our former congregation in 2007.

  It was the moment we decided to begin our fade and exit strategy. It was the year we stopped preaching and became inactive.

  Since 2007 only one elder asked us a question about our fade. It was the secretary. Just after the dead of my grandmother, he forget to give his condoleance, and got straight to his question in mind: I did not get your hours.

  Back then: I see him, the CO, standing on the platform saying: "Brothers who think we can use internet for preaching and publishing our publications, are the enemy of Christ. Those who enourage the internet for preaching are apostates".

  Now, only a few years later (on the Watchtower timeline), the organization is moving from The Watchtower Society to JW.ORG.

  When the CO did his remarks, it was for me an encouragement to leave. It encouraged my reasons to fade away, because the organization has all the marks of a sect, including officials who can say what they want, like the statement above.

  It took for our family 5 generations to leave. No shame about it. It's the only good thing to do.

  Gorby
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  COBE cannot be 80 or more

  by fader77 in

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  a new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.

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  It seems to me a way to get rid of the oldtimers. Time for more change, maybe at congregational level. New, ambitious COBE's will implement every change to keep his position.

  Gorby
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  Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?

  by minimus in

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  i am inactive for about 10 years now..

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  Gorbatchov

  Inactive. No preaching for 7 years (I still remember my last door when I decided there at that moment to stop.)

  Since 2 years only attending memorial and a part of the DC. For you all know family reasons.

  Never felt better! No problems with elders, they don't ask anything. Most JW's greet me and some not. It's their choice to make.

  Our children do easter and birthday party's and we enjoy their happiness.

  Gorby