Posts by Gorbatchov

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Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale

by Addison0998 in

so one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.

there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.

he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.

Gorbatchov

Take the doctor Luke for example instead of Jo Publisher.

G.

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WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

Gorbatchov

The fact that this subject arives now in the magazine made clear that the layoff/ reorganization effect is a real problem.

It is just a business corporation.

Best life ever?!?

G.

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Simon's Forum Is More Than Just a Forum!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

friends:.

simon's forum is much more than just a forum where we come to expose the watchtower.

it is a place that simon wanted people to be able to come to, to receive help, support, or find a compassionate listener.. this forum has exposed the watchtower more times than any forum on the net.

Gorbatchov

What a lovely post. Yes, this is a great site and forum. Would not know what to do without it.

We are all in a same sort of situation, the forum gives me power to go on.

G.

70

The Reasons for Cart Witnessing

by Simon in

whatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.

the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.

now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.

Gorbatchov

This is the translated quote:

“acknowledgment at the station is not for everyone, says Stet. "We are looking for representative people: young, well-dressed, a friendly smile, and just as cru: people are not convinced by a crippled old person.”

Here the news paper issue:

https://www.trouw.nl/home/de-nieuwe-strategie-van-de-jehova-s-getuigen~a026f3e5/

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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing

by Simon in

whatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.

the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.

now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.

Gorbatchov

Here in Holland there was an article in a nation wide newspaper about the Cart replacing the house to house work.

One of the jw’s said: “there is a selection, because we don’t want an old age person behind the Cart it must look fresh”.

G.

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26 Years Later

by Victor in

jw
friends

i'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the watchtower.

back then it was the wild wild west with newsgroups being the primary sources of information.

then came watchtower observer, freeminds, and all the other sites that followed jwd was one of the later sites.

Gorbatchov

I remember H2O was my first JW information source site, and the MT technology website.

Early 1997 😬 omg.

G.

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November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

Gorbatchov

Read that Rome is closing and will move to Bolognia.

Rome is worth a lot of millions.

G.

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November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

Gorbatchov

Sect. Hate it more and more.

Happy fully faded with wife and our 2 children.

G.

26

Same Talks Again and Again

by Akid48 in

hey i’m back i know it’s been a long time since i’ve posted on the form but a lot things have been happening so i haven’t had much time to post.. ive been 14 for awhile now makes me happy because i’m getting closer to being able to get a job and work my way out of this.. i have meetings on saturdays now which is horrible because i rather have it on sunday because it’s already a sad day because i got to go to school the next day.three of our public talks have had different brothers saying the same thing talking about the signs of the end days.the thing that gets me is when they always try and bank on the earthquake part i mean i’m really into science so i already knew a lot about plate tectonics sea floor spreading etc but you get taught this in school.with plates always moving divergent convergent transform etc there will be earthquakes it’s the effect of plates moving against or rubing on each or going back into the mantle(subduction zones) it happens.so when there’s a report in japan of a lot of earthquakes it must be the end times!no japan is located on four plates it’s going to experience big earthquakes.. i don’t know that just gets under my skins when they try and say it’s the end days because of the earth having natural things happen like plate tectonics is something that’s been happening recently no we might have gotten our hands on the technology to spot earthquakes recently but this has been happening for millions of years.. speaking of years i hope you all have a great 2019 and i’ll definitely post more of my thoughts this year..

Gorbatchov

Have a good 2019!

And yeah, meetings are circular, no news but fake news etc.

G.

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Elders: Which legal office?

by betterdaze in

there are two legal offices listed on the jw.org website.. united stateswatchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.office of the general counsel100 watchtower drivepatterson ny 12563-9204united states+1 [email protected].

world headquartersjehovah’s witnesses, office of the general counsel1 kings drivetuxedo park ny 10987-5500united states+1 [email protected].

to which location does one report child abusers and their enablers?

Gorbatchov

All redirected to Bendini, Lambert & Locke.

G.