no, it's not the "claw hand"!
what disturbs me most of all is the potter's shards.. any coin collector will tell you that the "imperfect" coins are the most valuable.
any art historian will tell you that the value of a painting is it's originality and uniqueness and the talent that can only come with time, suffering, and perserverence.. it is the oddities and quirks in one of a kind pieces that make them a delight and a treasure.. so why is it that this potter has no appreciation for uniqueness?
To paraphrase Erasmus- 'Salvation does not hinge on the Filioque but on the fruits of the spirit'.
Trinitarians have butchered each other over knat picking. What a wearisome and superstitious group.
They make Witnesses look mild in comparison, and Witnesses have issues.
The ultimate reality of a Supreme Being is that you are ok, and any bugaboos in ideas will all be resolved. Stop the nonsense of Hell.
no, it's not the "claw hand"!
what disturbs me most of all is the potter's shards.. any coin collector will tell you that the "imperfect" coins are the most valuable.
any art historian will tell you that the value of a painting is it's originality and uniqueness and the talent that can only come with time, suffering, and perserverence.. it is the oddities and quirks in one of a kind pieces that make them a delight and a treasure.. so why is it that this potter has no appreciation for uniqueness?
Can't take the inner scrutiny, that's typical. Witnesses have their multiple problems, I'm not promoting them. Compare the violence in the Fundamentalist world. Century after century of trinitarians killing each other. They have thrown mud on the name of Jesus.
Superstitious people and a god they imagine who roasts people. No wonder its led to so much violence. Don't get involved in the Cults of Fundamentalism, Evangelicals, Baptists et al.
no, it's not the "claw hand"!
what disturbs me most of all is the potter's shards.. any coin collector will tell you that the "imperfect" coins are the most valuable.
any art historian will tell you that the value of a painting is it's originality and uniqueness and the talent that can only come with time, suffering, and perserverence.. it is the oddities and quirks in one of a kind pieces that make them a delight and a treasure.. so why is it that this potter has no appreciation for uniqueness?
Scully you've gone from one superstitious religion to another set of fears and superstitions. Try not sleeping with one eye open.
In other words time to grow up.
no, it's not the "claw hand"!
what disturbs me most of all is the potter's shards.. any coin collector will tell you that the "imperfect" coins are the most valuable.
any art historian will tell you that the value of a painting is it's originality and uniqueness and the talent that can only come with time, suffering, and perserverence.. it is the oddities and quirks in one of a kind pieces that make them a delight and a treasure.. so why is it that this potter has no appreciation for uniqueness?
Whether a person agrees with any Witness beliefs or not anyone should know they are decidedly in the pacifist camp, and officially state they are not to be participants in their concept of Armageddon except for the 144,000 and angels, that's their take.
math.
7 v13.... broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it.. whereas narrow is the gate leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.
( this is limited ).
Arius was persecuted and his followers were on the defense.
1900 years of Trinitarian on Trinitarian violence can't be brushed under rug. What is wrong with that system of belief that produces such violence-
Blackwater, the Evangelical Army.
It just doesn't end with you people.
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math.
7 v13.... broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it.. whereas narrow is the gate leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.
( this is limited ).
Why did the followers of the Trinity become one of the most violent groups in all of history.
Why did they kill, burn, and murder each other.
steve hassan mentions that the 2 main tactics mind control cults use to control people is " fear " and " guilt " .. definition of fear in the readers digest oxford dictionary : " an unpleasant emotion caused by exposure to danger , expectation of pain, etc.
a state of alarm.
anxiety for the safety of, danger, feel anxiety or apprehension about.
Getting to a point of self actualization is a process rather than a particular end goal, its always ongoing.
Not getting sucked back into another cult like the Fundamentalists or Baptists practices requires diligence and self respect and a desire to keep growing. Keep your guard up.
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this point has been made before but i think the very words the wt write which contradict the bible the quote make the point powerfully.. have a read for yourself http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm.
jesus told his disciples: "you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.
"acts 1:8.. hence, some 6,000,000 persons today who are telling the good news of jehovah's kingdom by christ jesus in over 230 lands feel that they properly refer to themselves as jehovah's witnesses.. .
Maybe the sun really stood still for Joshua.
You know Fundamentalist Literalists really are a superstitious lot............ keep posting this is fun.
The god of Roastadora
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this point has been made before but i think the very words the wt write which contradict the bible the quote make the point powerfully.. have a read for yourself http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm.
jesus told his disciples: "you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.
"acts 1:8.. hence, some 6,000,000 persons today who are telling the good news of jehovah's kingdom by christ jesus in over 230 lands feel that they properly refer to themselves as jehovah's witnesses.. .
The Witnesses and Bible Students aren't any different in their view of Salvation than a person would find throughout christendom. You find Presbyterian groups who believe in Limited and Open Salvation, Baptists are split on Limited and Open Salvation and on it goes.
But why some adult would come to beleive in a God who tortures is the real head turner Superstitions abound. Run.
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following on from a post of sacolton's on a recent thread.
i hope he doesn't mind me cutting and pasting it as i want to examine it.. was jesus our god?
consider these two scriptures:.
The Trinity was the final split from Judaism. Concocted by Bishops who came from the Greek world who had been schooled in Platonic and Aristotelian metaphysical concepts of essence and substance. Taken to its philosophical conclusion every thing is god.
Prof. Goodman wrote that the metaphysical sense it tries to purport makes no sense without the use of metaphysical jargon.
Isaac Newton realized what was going on and dumped the Trinity and opted for the Jewish model of Deut. 6:4, One God which Jesus quoted.
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