the following is a true account of a sorrowful letter to the body of elders on the judicial commitee of ( congregation must remain nameless to protect the individual who wrote the letter )so, i am calling it ,the judicial commitee of the unforgiven elders.. dear brothers,.
this letter is to inform you of my decision to appeal your decision to disfellowship me.my reasons for requesting this appeal are the following:.
as you are aware,bro.?
In case you bethel elders are lurking on this forum,be aware,that the individual who wrote this heartfelt letter is unaware that I posted it for all the world to read.More will follow in this matter.Blueblades,
Why would you post this letter without their permission?
IW
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Outnfree,
Yes, many JWs have left but many also have stayed.
If you think my post had anything to do with defending JWs let me say outright it did not! It's about the power of religious belief, the power it has over even truth itself.
The JW religion fulfills a need and no matter if COJonsson's book were to be published world wide it would not by any means threaten the Society. Not because his arguments are not worthwhile but because he is attempting to fight religion. The number of JWs who leave because of his book or even the internet will always be a small minority of the number of JWs as a whole, imo.
Contrary to what some here may believe, there are many JWs who are very happy with their religion. They enjoy the conventions, they want to teach the Bible to others, they love to volunteer, they love the association, they enjoy participating at the meetings, they love singing the songs and no, they are not all braindead (that is an exJW myth promulgated by the movers and shakers of the exJW discussion board world).
As long as these people love their religion, 1914 will live. No amount of dating discussion will change that.
Religion is not based on fact but on emotion.
IW
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Hi Marjorie,
Thanks for your reply.
I agree with everything you said, the Watchtower's theology is way off the mark and their predictions for 1914 were also.
The direction I was coming from was more about the power of religion verses truth. When people want to believe they find a way to believe and even the smallest of miracles will nurture that belief until death. Many religions have a history of wrongs that are publicly known, yet their adherents believe their faith is the true faith and they continue to support their religion.
Religion offers hope, JWs like other religions offer hope. From time to time claimed miracles are reported in the press, in Florida a few years ago long lines of people gathered to view what was thought to be a miracle, the image of Mary on a large window. The faith of many was reaffirmed, it made their faith in their religion stronger. Of course unbelievers could find a way to disprove that the image was a miracle, and some did say that the physical processes that took place on the glass were not connected to some supernatural occurrence, but to the true believers it did not matter, the image for them was solid proof of their faith how it got there was not as important as the fact that it was there.
I believe it is the same with many JWs. Sure their religion said one thing then another about 1914, but for many the fact that the year did prove to be a significant one builds up their faith in their religion. Just as one small miracle in another religion can carry the believers faith for a lifetime, so also for many JWs 1914 can carry their faith for a lifetime.
As an example, let's say that in 1990 a religious man said that Bible prophecy indicated that the world would come to an end in 2001 and that Satan would battle with the Christ and the Christ would win. Let us also say that this man and his followers published this warning far and wide here in the U.S. September 11, 2001 would make this man a prophet even though the world did not end and the Christ did not visibly battle with Satan. Fundamentalist Christians would say that yes the "world came to an end" because the world we knew has ended and is now changed forever. They could also say Christ (Christianity) did and is doing battle with Satan the father of all evil and evil doers and 2001 marked the beginning of the last fight to rid the world of the evils of terrorism the last enemy to peace on earth. Fulfilled prophecy is a powerful thing and any discrepancies in details can be explained away by true believers.
1914 was predicted as a significant year, it came true. Miracle enough for many JWs to continue to believe, imo.
IW
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Damn you,
Fine, IW. But don't go whining about no one replying to your question.
When I need a reneger and a coward to answer my questions I'll let you know buddy.
And for the record, you're a small-minded little woman with far too high an opinion of her ability to reason.AlanF
Stop the jackass stupidity you little man. You boy, are looking for meat here, I know it. You hunt and go home hungry. lol
Happy hunting.
IslandWoman
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
IslandWoman said:
Alan, please do not address any of my posts. You are a little man, who when called on a point shouts disrespect! Please get out of my face.
IW
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Still hoping for an answer to my question.
IW
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Hi Six,
save for the fact that I think you're just taking the mickey.
Hey, I'm a raised in the JW religion exJW, don't know what that means. Please enlighten me!
IW
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Hi Alleymom,
I must ask you the same question I asked in another thread.
Why is the disproving of the 607 date so important? The fact that the Watchtower's prediction (one which of course they did not originate), was fulfilled and 1914 did turn out to be a significant year is what is important not the start dates. Whether or not the start dates can be proven, the success of their publicly predicting 1914 as a significant year is still noteworthy.
All the juxtaposing of dates will not remove that fact.
IW
on the silentlambs.org website bill bowen writes this asking for readers' assistance: .
recently the following events took place in bridgewater nova scotia.
the information as seen was in the bridgewater bulliten a local newspaper and also in the halifax chronicle herald what the paper does not mention is that this is a jw.
Poor Bill.
Rainbow, are you working for the silentlambs org. or against them? Not sure.
IW
how sad.
i've just heard that the girls died due to uncontrolled bleeding.
only 29, both attorneys (in iran!!!
Hi Lisa,
Thanks for posting this.
Makes me ashamed to have ever felt bad about my life.
IW
