Posts by IslandWoman

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Part 2 of "Apostate Logical Fallacies"

by logansrun in

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apostate logical fallacies part 2 of 2

in my first essay on common fallacies former jehovahs witnesses commit in reference to the society i explained the error of generalizing individual witness behavior to that of the entire society.

the other errors i notice (to a certain degree i realize they are my opinions) are related to this, yet somewhat different.

IslandWoman

Bradley,

For what it's worth, in my opinion your post is the best ever written on this subject.

I fully agree with everything you wrote, I also believe though that by saying "I agree" I may have killed it.

IW

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How Sad

by Ariell in

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i have a distant cousin, 15 and in a wheel chair.

she's always saying how she can't wait until the new system comes when finally she'll be set free from her handicap and can run around with joyful glee.

it breaks my heart knowing this is never gonna happen and makes me even more angrier.

IslandWoman

Hi Northern girl,

My son is now a grown man who lives with (not suffers with) cerbral palsy. It is great that he has it mildly and to the regular onlooker, no one would see that he is dissabled. His brain is not affected and he is one of the most brilliant men I know.
I have never dwelt on his dissablity, only his ABILITIES! He is a university grad and supports himself in great fashion in the line of computer technology.
The last thing he would want is for me to draw any attention to him, but it is hard not to brag about this beautiful person!!!

You sound like a good Mom with an equally great son.

I haven't posted to you before so please excuse the late: Welcome to the Board!!

IW

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I Did Jesus come in 1914?

by ClassAvenger in

i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?

is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?

if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?

IslandWoman

Hi Garybuss,

I suspect we might well represent the universal diversity of many of the experiences. In spite of it all, I can't help but notice we are both essentially in the same place today. So different, yet so alike.

A fine summary of the differences among many of us and the sameness as well.

I too appreciated the exchange.

Thank you,

IW

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Jehovahs Witness Logical Fallacies.pt1

by Brummie in

jehovahs witness logical fallacies.pt1.

in fact, many of the bad experiences people have with jws are caused by actions that the society does not encourage.. .

logan i have started a new thread simply because if a jw read your old one they may be happy enough not go back to reread this if it was posted there.. one of the things that kept me holding on to the jw faith was the thought that many of the bad experiences people have with jws are caused by actions the soceity does not encourage.

IslandWoman

SixofNine,

See, Jehovah could use imperfect men and not have these kinds of problems. He could train them to be loving and kind and gentle. He could toss out the rule book, or, better yet, make it a useful, helpful tool. He could give them an understanding of human pyschology. He could make sure that men with outrageously dangerous personality flaws were never in a position of power in the congregation.

Beautiful, just beautiful.

Thank you,

IW

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I Did Jesus come in 1914?

by ClassAvenger in

i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?

is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?

if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?

IslandWoman

Hi Garybuss,

In my life as a JW, I and my family and friends considered field service a co-operative effort to help others learn about God and the Bible. Never, never did we feel like unpaid corporation workers.

We felt we were engaged in a world wide work, one in which volunteers produced the books and volunteers placed the books. The books and mags. were simply a vehicle to spread what we thought was the truth. We loved the people we were trying to help not the vehicle.

Everyone was a volunteer.

As for the meetings, if there had not been a close adherence to the religious teaching materials of the Watchtower at those meetings than I suppose some exJWs would be complaining how the Watchtower allowed every jackass to say whatever they wanted at the meetings, no win situation. Yes, the Watchtower teaches using books and mags, the Catholics use altars and rosaries, the Pentacostals use the spirit, the Baptists lay their hands on people and claim healings. None of them have it completely right, too bad wish it were different but that's the way it is.

I dedicated myself to God not the Org. As for the second baptismal question, prior to its implementation it was an unspoken given that we were Jehovah's Witnesses after our baptism. Just as other Christians when baptized into their denomination consider themselves to be Catholics or whatever.

IW

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I Did Jesus come in 1914?

by ClassAvenger in

i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?

is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?

if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?

IslandWoman

Hi Garybuss,

I think you are saying you were baptized for religious reasons and those did not change when you left your position of unpaid corporation worker.

Yes, I was baptized for religious reasons (I dedicated myself to God) but I never felt like an "unpaid corporation worker." When I left, I left because the religion I was in dishonored God. I left the religion but in no way did I dissolve my dedication to God.

IW

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I Did Jesus come in 1914?

by ClassAvenger in

i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?

is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?

if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?

IslandWoman

Hi Garybuss,

My baptism was a symbol of my dedication to God. When I DA'd I left the Witnesses but my dedication to God remained intact. For me one had nothing to do with the other.

IW

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I Did Jesus come in 1914?

by ClassAvenger in

i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?

is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?

if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?

IslandWoman

Hi Garybuss,

Don't know if I can agree that it means they are dedicating themselves to a publishing company but I think I understand where you are coming from.

Thanks,

IW

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Biblical references ?

by KGB in

i have noticed that a lot of you here quote references of history from scripture, so my question is this.

if you say that the bible is not the true word of god then how can it even be a true word of history.

IslandWoman

Great post Skeptic!

Thanks,

IW

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I Did Jesus come in 1914?

by ClassAvenger in

i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?

is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?

if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?

IslandWoman

Hi Garybuss,

After all, the people did dedicate themselves to the publishing corporation at their baptism and the legal department can supply the documentation to all who ask.

I don't understand your statement. Could you explain please?

Thanks,

IW