Posts by ISP
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30Al-Amiriya...The Ultimate Mistake From The Last Gulf War
by ISP infriday, october 4, 2002. shrine to victims of tragic error.
wreaths, flags, prayers mark place where hundreds of civilians died.
seattle post-intelligencer foreign desk editor.
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Al-Amiriya...The Ultimate Mistake From The Last Gulf War
by ISP infriday, october 4, 2002. shrine to victims of tragic error.
wreaths, flags, prayers mark place where hundreds of civilians died.
seattle post-intelligencer foreign desk editor.
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The position with Israel is hard for many to reconcile.
It has not signed upto any treaties on nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. It does not say it has nuclear weapons! No one asks, mind you!
I was pleased to hear Bush talk about sorting out the Palestinian situation after he does Iraq. i just hope it happens. While you have Israel getting away with murder with the apparent approval of the West, you fuel the fires of Islamic hatred.
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Do You Like To Gamble?
by minimus inone of the sins that a jehovah's witness can get disfellowshipped for is gambling.
those that occasionally gamble, even for pennies, are considered "greedy ones".
of course, playing the stock market or futures is not considered gambling these are "investments".personally, i enjoy a little gambling.
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Done a bit. I am a member of a casino. Play black jack. About even. had my good days and bad!
Its fun more than anything.
ISP
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Al-Amiriya...The Ultimate Mistake From The Last Gulf War
by ISP infriday, october 4, 2002. shrine to victims of tragic error.
wreaths, flags, prayers mark place where hundreds of civilians died.
seattle post-intelligencer foreign desk editor.
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Simply taking Saddam out is the best solution. He's got lots of enemies anyway. Prob;em is we are likely to kill more innocents and give the extremists more reason to hit back in the only way they know how.
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Elder came...grasped at straws...and left. UPDATE!
by searchfothetruth inwell i had a very interesting conversation on friday night.
sorry to be so long letting you know what happened.. only one elder turned up and i was wrong in my original thought that my mum had given him my report, it seems he was coming to ask me to study, therefore he was totally unprepared for what was about to happen to him.
but, i have to say, that he was the most honest elder i have spoke to and i'm sure you will be surprised by some of the things he said.. he started off wanting to know what made me stop going to the meetings and i related to him my experiences of a certain body of elders that had, to say the least, made me realise that they thought that they were a law unto themselves (including stealing, lying and generally being un-christian).
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Elder came...grasped at straws...and left. UPDATE!
by searchfothetruth inwell i had a very interesting conversation on friday night.
sorry to be so long letting you know what happened.. only one elder turned up and i was wrong in my original thought that my mum had given him my report, it seems he was coming to ask me to study, therefore he was totally unprepared for what was about to happen to him.
but, i have to say, that he was the most honest elder i have spoke to and i'm sure you will be surprised by some of the things he said.. he started off wanting to know what made me stop going to the meetings and i related to him my experiences of a certain body of elders that had, to say the least, made me realise that they thought that they were a law unto themselves (including stealing, lying and generally being un-christian).
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Well one pt, I've been thinking about was his overall pt. regarding 1950! Anything before 1950 could be taken with a pinch of salt. Well, prior to 1950 the WTS got most of its key dates. 1914,1919, 1931, 1935....also a good deal of literature post 1950 is utter garbage! I think you should be able to demonstrate that even after 1950, the WTS has stumbled from one embarassment to another. Really he would have been better to say that anything written 5 yrs ago could be dismissed!
If you get the chance to 'study' it would be handy for you to discuss one of your objections first. give him notice and ask him to research it etc. Hope you feel upto it! After all, you are up against a spirit-appointed elder (that does some circuit work), the spirit directed organisation, the 144,000 now ruling or part thereof, the angelic forces in mid-heaven and other places, Jesus ruling as king who has the elders in his right hand, Jehovah God the almighty who can use antimatter and cosmic rays if ya get him really mad, (I would recommend sunglasses and wrapping youself in baking foil) and the GB who defy incontinence somehow.
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Tis The Season...For Elder Visits.
by joannadandy inyesterday dear sister eyegirl (of the international sisterhood of apostate albino's, northern branch) was visiting me.
we just finished lunch and were about to rush out and see some r rated movies when the doorbell rang.
curious!.
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I think you have to be somewhat careful here. In accepting an elder into your home to counsel you etc.(whatever the reason) , you accept in some measure your responsibility to them and the congregation/WTS. I am not sure that, that is the message you want to put over! You are within your rights to decline.
Best
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Elder came...grasped at straws...and left. UPDATE!
by searchfothetruth inwell i had a very interesting conversation on friday night.
sorry to be so long letting you know what happened.. only one elder turned up and i was wrong in my original thought that my mum had given him my report, it seems he was coming to ask me to study, therefore he was totally unprepared for what was about to happen to him.
but, i have to say, that he was the most honest elder i have spoke to and i'm sure you will be surprised by some of the things he said.. he started off wanting to know what made me stop going to the meetings and i related to him my experiences of a certain body of elders that had, to say the least, made me realise that they thought that they were a law unto themselves (including stealing, lying and generally being un-christian).
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Great job, search.
I spoke to SFT the next day after the meeting and he hit the elder with a lot more stuff than he has posted here. He made some very telling points. Good thing for him was that he could say he had researched all of them himself. For example he had the email he had sent to the UN re Library Card which shot down the WTS explanation that they needed NGO status to get access to the library!
Having met him and spoke to SFT, he has a very clear and precise manner about him. this info would have gone over pretty well. See what happens next! Any guesses?!
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The WTS Lie That Ensnared Me!
by ISP in*** tr chap.
11 pp.
the bible speaks of the time in which we are living as the last days or the time of the end.
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pm chap. 21 p. 390 Theocracy Triumphs over All the Nations ***55
"And this is what will prove to be the scourge with which Jehovah will scourge all the peoples that will actually do military service against Jerusalem: There will be a rotting away of one’s flesh, while one is standing upon one’s feet; and one’s very eyes will rot away in their sockets, and one’s very tongue will rot away in one’s mouth. And it must occur in that day that confusion from Jehovah will become widespread among them; and they will actually grab hold, each one of the hand of his companion, and his hand will actually come up against the hand of his companion. And Judah itself also will be warring at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the nations round about will certainly be gathered, gold and silver and garments in excessive abundance. And this is how the scourge of the horse, the mule, the camel, and the male ass, and every sort of domestic animal that happens to be in those camps, will prove to be, like this scourge."—Zechariah 14:12-15.56
Frightful? Gruesome? Sadistic? Ghoulish? Fiendish? Bible readers in Christendom may express shock at that inspired battle account! But would it not be hypocritical for them to do so? How can they sincerely be shocked, when the so-called "Christian" nations that they so patriotically support now stand prepared to fight the final war with the flaming napalm bombs dropped from airplanes, with liquid fire belched forth from guns, with corrosive chemical gases, with explosives that will blast away a person’s face so that the surviving victim needs to wear a mask and be fed intravenously, with nuclear bombs of such enormous power as to make tens of thousands of human creatures disappear into thin air? How can the supporters of such wartime viciousness find fault with Jehovah of armies? Let them rather be shocked, horrified, at themselves!Scary quote from the Paradise Restored book.
The WTS instead of suggesting a figurative application, revel in a vivid, gory literal application.
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What are you doing tonight?
by WildTurkey indede and i are going out drinking and dancing for my birthday.
ill make a fool of myself and dance my booty off!!!!!.
so what are you doing tonight???
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I been to the gym........burned a 1000 calories in an hour and did some weights. trying to get into shape etc.
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