WLC is a very good apologist.
While some of his stuff may be difficult to swallow, that doesn't make them wrong ( theologically speaking).
Bohm, I didn't know that WLC refused to debate Loftus.
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How Modern Christianity has failed Christians
by Christ Alone ini've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.
) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.
"feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.
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Yahweh was a Cannanite god Ashtoreth his wife...before the Jews!! Unreal!
by Witness 007 inthis i did not know till recently.
buts a whole new meaning to "let us make man in our image.." no wonder all the kings of israel turned to other gods..
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Well done Leo :)
Now if you can only explain that it is stauros and not stavros !!
LOL !
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CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...
by Terry inbefore man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?
millions of years passed before man and sin.
(let that sink in a few seconds.........).
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No wonder Anne Rice became a Catholic, then dropped it after getting bored with braindead clerics.
The prpoblem with Anne is that she fell into the same hole that so many do, they associate the faith with the heirarchy and expect changes without working for them.
She complained when the Pope said that condoms are the solution to stave off AIDS and one has to wonder how she didn't know the RCC position on birth control BEFORE she became a Catholic?
Obvious that her son being Gay was going to cost some issues, what did she expect?
You shouldn't complain when a religious organization does things that it has always done.
No matter how liberal the RCC can be at times at the grass roots levels, when it comes to "official dogma" they have a stick up their ass.
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Idiot Ray Comfort (Banana Man) Blames Children's Murder on Dawkins and Hitchens
by cantleave inhttp://www.goddiscussion.com/105352/british-redcoats/.
american pastor blames mass murder of children on 'british redcoats' richard dawkins and christopher hitchens .
in his "on the box" program dubbed "a biblical truth zone" ray comfort of living water ministries weighed in on the horror and tragedy of the shooting spree at sandy creek elementary school in newtown, ct, in order to offer his viewers an explanation.
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I would assume that you think that our morals would have evolved to this point, yes?
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Idiot Ray Comfort (Banana Man) Blames Children's Murder on Dawkins and Hitchens
by cantleave inhttp://www.goddiscussion.com/105352/british-redcoats/.
american pastor blames mass murder of children on 'british redcoats' richard dawkins and christopher hitchens .
in his "on the box" program dubbed "a biblical truth zone" ray comfort of living water ministries weighed in on the horror and tragedy of the shooting spree at sandy creek elementary school in newtown, ct, in order to offer his viewers an explanation.
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To me that is Objective morality without the need for any god given laws!
Do you think we could have gotten there WITHOUT the "god given laws" to point to what was right and wrong?
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Idiot Ray Comfort (Banana Man) Blames Children's Murder on Dawkins and Hitchens
by cantleave inhttp://www.goddiscussion.com/105352/british-redcoats/.
american pastor blames mass murder of children on 'british redcoats' richard dawkins and christopher hitchens .
in his "on the box" program dubbed "a biblical truth zone" ray comfort of living water ministries weighed in on the horror and tragedy of the shooting spree at sandy creek elementary school in newtown, ct, in order to offer his viewers an explanation.
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Well that would have been total bollocks as well, don't you think?
Yes because I don't think we are at a state when we need OBJECTIVE morals to knwo the difference between right and wrong since our subjective morals are at high enough of a level that, for most people, knowing right and wrong is not that hard.
Of course, whenever these things happen I question if that may be true...
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Is the Trinitarian view point correct based on this passage-Titus 2:13?
by I_love_Jeff intitus 2:13- "while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great god and savior, jesus christ, " .
the part in question lies at the end of the passage "...of our great god and savior, jesus christ,".
*granville sharp's rule-when you have two nouns, which are not proper names (such as cephas, or paul, or timothy), which are describing a person, and the two nouns are connected by the word "and," and the first noun has the article ("the") while the second does not, *both nouns are referring to the same person.. this, as far as i know, has been an ongoing argument among trinitarians and non trinitarians for a very long time.
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The most obvious comments for Jesus divinity are in the GOJ, Colossians, Philippians and Hebrews.
They are equate Jesus with God in regards to His nature.
As muchas JW's can try to argue those passages, simply put they comment that Jesus and His Father share the same divine nature and ONLY they do that.
Colossians 1:15-20
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. 19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.
Philippians 2:5-11
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Hebrews 1
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
God’s Final Word in His Son
1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.
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How Modern Christianity has failed Christians
by Christ Alone ini've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.
) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.
"feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.
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I highly recommend this read:
The Bible and the Believer: How to Read the Bible Critically and Religiously [Hardcover]
Marc Zvi Brettler (Author), Peter Enns (Author), Daniel J. Harrington (Author) Brettler is a Jewish biblical scholar Enns and Evangelical scholar Harrington is a Catholic Scholar
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How Modern Christianity has failed Christians
by Christ Alone ini've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.
) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.
"feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.
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Oh now we're down to 'dude' lol, hang onto your relics you apparently need them.
I didn't mean to offend you and if I did, I apologize.
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Idiot Ray Comfort (Banana Man) Blames Children's Murder on Dawkins and Hitchens
by cantleave inhttp://www.goddiscussion.com/105352/british-redcoats/.
american pastor blames mass murder of children on 'british redcoats' richard dawkins and christopher hitchens .
in his "on the box" program dubbed "a biblical truth zone" ray comfort of living water ministries weighed in on the horror and tragedy of the shooting spree at sandy creek elementary school in newtown, ct, in order to offer his viewers an explanation.
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Ticker,
You make a vlalid point but this is a perfect example of someone, even if they had a legit point, sabbotaging it with a personal attack.
You you have a point and your point carries weight and is legit, there is no need to "single out" individuals or call names.