Posts by LucyA

im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??

it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!

LucyA

Ask me that again when you see your childrens , neices, nefews, grandchidrens faces light-up

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How I feel about this site

by RickyCisco in

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(... with a few slight edits of my own, from the movie "fight club").

"i see in this forum the strongest and smartest men who have ever lived.

all this greatness, all this potential-- how is it squandered?

LucyA

for what it's worth here's somthing I wrote on this subject.

I once read somewhere that true freedom can ’ t be achieved without sacrifice. If that ’ s true the children of JW truly have earned their freedom because we have sacrificed allot. We sacrificed our childhoods and our sense of self to an organization that ’ s sole purpose is to control its members. We sacrificed our freedom and the ability to express ourselves

The thing is second generation JW didn’t choose this sacrifice for many of us this sacrifice was made for us long before we were born without our permission or input. We are just expected to be OK with it. We played the game we tried very hard reach the goal posts we sweated blood we attended all meetings we did our pre-study, we went witnessing and followed all the rules (well the ones we could there ’ s too many to follow them all). But just when you got within spitting distance of the goal posts somebody moved them on you and you had too do it all over again. This of course became very frustrating after awhile and we became dejected or depressed or both only to be informed that this was our fault for not trying hard enough so we tried harder not just happy with being baptised we had pioneer too but soon that was not good enough again was had to A.P (this is the only part I feel sorry for the men about once you became an A.P as a women their was no where else to go for the men theirs a whole list of other things for you not to be good enough for.)

Sacrifice is an extremely difficult concept for anyone to grasp but many of us realised to gain our freedom and sanity we needed to make one final sacrifice the largest and hardest of them all. We had too sacrifice our relationships with the only people we had ever been able to create relationships with our only friends (in my case) and this was the most painful sacrifice of all because these were the people we loved who we grew with who helped raise us and we knew that they would walk past us in the street without even a courtesy hello we ceased to exist in their eyes and in their hearts. For many of our friends and family members this sacrifice was too much and they remain as we were under the thumb of an organisation that can ’ t allow its members to take a breath for fear that they find their strength to do the same as us.

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What is your favorite poem? Here is mine

by HappyGuy in

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thou hast made me endless,.

such is thy pleasure.. this frail vessel thou emptiest again and again,.

and fillest it ever with fresh life.. this little flute of a reed thou hast carried over hills and dales,.

LucyA

sorry Open-Mind i thought i'd copied it all! and to whoever wrote it

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What is your favorite poem? Here is mine

by HappyGuy in

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thou hast made me endless,.

such is thy pleasure.. this frail vessel thou emptiest again and again,.

and fillest it ever with fresh life.. this little flute of a reed thou hast carried over hills and dales,.

LucyA

WALL OF LOVE

Seven years ago the three men came.

They came with their ties and their pressed suits.

They came with their little black books with the gold edges and with silk ribbons to mark their favourite parts.

The ribbons marked the rules the men found in the books.

Seven years ago the Christian men arrived.

Their lips read the letters and words from the little books and their eyes showed nothing.

The eyes kept silent to leave room for the message from the lips.

The eyes dared not connect, for then the lips might tremble and be unable to read the words of the rules.

Seven years ago the men opened their books.

The books decreed that a wall must be built.

The lips said it must be made as strong as steel.

The lips said the wall was the will of the book, and must be built.

Seven years ago the men adjusted their ties and kept on moving their lips.

The little books said to build the wall, not from stone or of wood, but of love.

"The wall is for your own good, for protection," the lips told us.

The wall would keep part of my family safe on the inside, and keep the other part out.

Seven years ago the three men left.

They took their ties and their books and their lips and went away.

But they left their rules behind, and they left their love to be the bricks in our family's wall.

For the love in our family was not strong enough to build such a wall unaided.

Seven years ago I last saw the neatly-dressed men.

These men have great power in their ties, in their books, and in their lips. Their magic is strong.

When they ordered the wall to be built they did not have to return to enforce the decision of their lips and pages.

The wall was built by us, the ones who would be protected by it, as the three men knew it would be.

Seven years ago my family built the wall.

My parents and brothers and friends and relatives built from the inside.

I laid the bricks of love in place from the

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Calling all Australians

by Aussie Oz in

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i'd like to know who you all are on the board.. you dont have to identify yourself personaly as i understand some need to be ingocnito.

i am also curious to see if any of my old childhood and adult life friends have made it onto here.. me: lived in ballarat 70s, naracoorte in the 80s, adelaide in the 90s.

traveled to york w.a as a teen and to alice springs and brisbane early twenties.. of course, if you need to be silent, thats fine too!

LucyA

Hi Aussie

Probably never saw my cong was Swan Hill (North) Victoria.

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Democrats WANT Babies to Die

by AwSnap in

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hahahahaha!....i heard this from a jw today!

they said, "i don't know which is which, but one of them is more conservative (i said 'i think that's republicans) and tend to do things more along the lines of the bible.

and then the other party (democrats) is kind of wild and pushes for abortions and gay marriage.

LucyA

A question from an observer.

To all those against a women’s right to choose.

What if carrying that foetus to term would permanently injure or even kill the foetus/ mother or both?

And what about the child's right to a tolerable existence?

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my first real birthday party

by SnakesInTheTower in

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well, today is my birthday and i will be getting a real cake with a real candle - my dear bride-to-be promised not to put 43 candles on the cake.

it is just going to be me, her, and her 8 year old (and soon to be my step) son.

nothing fancy.

LucyA

Happy Birthday!