At least scientists are aware of the fringes of their ignorance. They know where to look.
Facts are great. There's a solidity about them that make them a great foundation for building knowledge.
Posts by jgnat
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247Science proves there is a God
by seekchristonly infusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
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Science proves there is a God
by seekchristonly infusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
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jgnat
"Everyone['s] point is relevant to some degree or [an]other. There is no ultimate truth among humankind."
So, the speed of light is not a constant?
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Who knows when Native Americans was granted citizenship?? Very strange.
by jam inhow can one not be a citizen of their own land??.
yes the act of 1924 granted u.s citizenship to those native .
americans who were not already u.s. citizens.. prior to the passage of the indian citizens act of 1924, nearly .
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jgnat
The answer lies in reaching across the divide and shaking hands.
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I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......
by TTATTelder inone of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.
i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).
when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.
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jgnat
I have done the same thing with my hubby, frazzled. I got to know our literal neighbours. Chatted over the fence. Hubby was charmed by many of these great people. Then later when he would parrot off some magazine crap that all these people are wicked and to be destroyed, I would say, "You mean like our Wicca neighbour Kristin and her amiable rocker husband?" He would back off.
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Religion vs the gospel
by Fernando inour family's journey out of the watchtower has led us to see the gospel as the antithesis or exact opposite of religion.. for us religion is men telling us what to believe and do (to control us).. for us the gospel is god telling us what he has done (to liberate us from such men).. how have you come to see the relationship between religion and the gospel?.
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Who knows when Native Americans was granted citizenship?? Very strange.
by jam inhow can one not be a citizen of their own land??.
yes the act of 1924 granted u.s citizenship to those native .
americans who were not already u.s. citizens.. prior to the passage of the indian citizens act of 1924, nearly .
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jgnat
While I was in Grande Cache I worked for the local Asinewuche Nation. I asked a million questions, all the prejudices white people tell each other to feel better, and the questions were all patiently answered. I had trouble, ethically, calling myself moral and fair, when we live with communities like this right on our doorstep. We are all human, surely? I now have a much broader understanding of the issues. Our native liaison fella at my new work has generously tagged me as an honorary native, and I am honored. I love shooting the breeze with him, and he shares his latest work with me, because I UNDERSTAND. Or at least, I understand much better than I did.
As outsiders to these communities, it is not our job to tell them how to fix themselves. We must listen, and listen well. Walk in to the room with hand outstretched in greeting, and face the leaders as equals. Be prepared to negotiate. Keep your word. Throwing guilt money over the wall does nobody any good.
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I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......
by TTATTelder inone of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.
i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).
when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.
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jgnat
Khaki pants and a golf shirt is the new North American uniform.
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I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......
by TTATTelder inone of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.
i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).
when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.
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jgnat
You are on to something important here. I would characterize the feeling of separateness as an expression of our native "Sanctity/Degradation" mores. I lean to greater inclusiveness. People are so much more than their shells. Perhaps a good walk through a San Francisco neighbourhood can help reset your cleanliness clock.
How can a large organization manage to control so many people? By exploiting another set of native mores, "Loyalty, Authority". There is a satisfaction in giving one's whole life to a noble cause. This isn't unique to the Witnesses or even religion. This is exactly how governments inspire entire nations to engage in war.
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How many KHs in U.S.? Yellow Pages shows . .
by Gayle innot sure how recent or accurate their list is tho.
don't know if duplicates or assembly halls.
that would bring 2 1/2 congs per kh average.
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jgnat
Measuring the same way,
The UK has 1476 congregations, or one congregation per 43,000 population. (Charities reporting greater than 25,000 per year).
Using the Yellow Pages information, the US has one Kingdom Hall per 56,200 population. A similar IRS Search only yields 224 results, and many are for other organizations. I think only the assembly halls and larger centers are listed on the US IRS list.
By the way, if you want to search the HQ charity information in each country, try Watchtower or "Watch Tower", two words.
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How many KHs in U.S.? Yellow Pages shows . .
by Gayle innot sure how recent or accurate their list is tho.
don't know if duplicates or assembly halls.
that would bring 2 1/2 congs per kh average.
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